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    • j_scheibel
      j_scheibel last edited by

      Hi, i assume you are using Hyper-V or VMware and assigning vCPUs, At a guess, i would imagine using HT cores could contend very quickly. Are you in a position to disable HT on the CPU and assign cores only? just to see if a single core gives more that 2 threads with HT on?

      Just a thought.

      Luke

      I wasn’t using any kind of virtual machine. I could go in to the bios and turn off the hyper threading but I can’t imagine that helping overall since you cut the overall power by half. I probably wont be in front of the computer to play with it for a day or so, regardless, I really expect this was more of a bottleneck imposed by the managing process (ie the wallet). I mean the wallet had locking issues when using pool settings with 12 or more threads . so there might be some bugs in there. however, the underlining code that does the new scrypt seems to be running ok though. (which I thought was the point of the test :) )

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        mirrax last edited by

        I don’t know if Lizhi is successfull with modification of cgminer?

        But now two scenarios trouble me a little:

        1st, botnets targeting Neoscrypt in CPU era

        2nd, if first GPU miner will be private

        Is this valid lamentation or not much?

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        • lizhi
          lizhi last edited by

          Hi guys, I’m still not successful . I was caught in the kernel . I refer to the KECCAK, try to write some code. But no progress. :'(

          I cannot write similar code for Nerscrypt in driver-opencl.c and ocl.c

          #ifdef USE_KECCAK
          static cl_int queue_keccak_kernel(_clState *clState, dev_blk_ctx *blk, __maybe_unused cl_uint threads)
          {
                  cl_kernel *kernel = &clState->kernel;
                  unsigned int num = 0;
                  cl_int status = 0;
          
                  status = clEnqueueWriteBuffer(clState->commandQueue,
                          clState->keccak_CLbuffer, true, 0,
                          KECCAK_BUFFER_SIZE, &blk->keccak_data[0],
                          0, NULL,NULL);
          
                  CL_SET_ARG(clState->keccak_CLbuffer);
                  CL_SET_ARG(clState->outputBuffer);
          
                  return status;
          }
          #endif
          

          The biggest difficulty is to write neoscrypt140707.cl, This is a binary code .

          		case KL_NEOSCRYPT:
          			strcpy(filename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME".cl");
          			strcpy(binaryfilename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME);
          			/* Neoscrypt only supports vector 1 */
          			cgpu->vwidth = 1;
          			break;
          
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          • lizhi
            lizhi last edited by

            This is my project, It comes from cgminer 3.6.6

            How to build:

            cd /D/FTC/neoscrypt/max-cgminer-master

            autoreconf -fvi

            export LIBCURL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/curl/include

            export LIBCURL_LIBS=-L/usr/local/curl/lib

            CFLAGS=“-O2 -msse2” ./configure --enable-scrypt --enable-keccak --enable-neoscrypt

            make

            if have error information "undefined reference to `_imp__curl_easy_init’ "

            you edit Makefile file , add " LIBS = -lpdcurses -lpthread -lcurl -lcurldll "

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              DemocraticRepublicOfDave last edited by

              Hi there.

              Can anyone give me the github links to the “standard” neoscrypt cpuminer and wallet?

              Lizhi I have your source and am studying it. I am a newbie to opengl but I have been intending for a long time to get into it.

              Lizhi, am I correct in that the neoscrypt.c/.h files in the standard reference implementation?

              The main issue for me is to understand the neoscrypt algorithm first.

              Cheers

              Dave.

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                slavco Regular Member last edited by

                People, I’m following this discussion quite long and I want to ask if audit was performed on the neoscrypt algo?

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                • ghostlander
                  ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                  People, I’m following this discussion quite long and I want to ask if audit was performed on the neoscrypt algo?

                  What kind of audit?

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                    slavco Regular Member last edited by

                    Example: What if someone manage to lower the complexity of the algorithm?
                    Audit in the form of public review of the algorithm by crypto comunity.

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                      mirrax last edited by

                      Example: What if someone manage to lower the complexity of the algorithm?
                      Audit in the form of public review of the algorithm by crypto comunity.

                      It will be opensource…

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                      • ghostlander
                        ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                        Example: What if someone manage to lower the complexity of the algorithm?
                        Audit in the form of public review of the algorithm by crypto comunity.

                        I doubt they can get any sensible advantage, but it’s going public with the source code in a couple of days anyway. Anyone can test it until our livenets switch in 2 weeks or so.

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                          slavco Regular Member last edited by

                          Great, I’ll check it and share it! Thumbs up!

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                            bacobob last edited by

                            So if i get it right the new algo in 2 weeks ;)

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                              A Former User last edited by

                              Sort of.

                              It essentially hangs on the gpu miner been finished.

                              Their will be no algo change for ftc until the GPU miner is publicly available.

                              Let that be clear.

                              Stay tuned if you want to be best dressed my friends.

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                              • kris_davison
                                kris_davison last edited by

                                Stay tuned if you want to be best dressed my friends.

                                are we talking high heels and suspenders here?

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                                  A Former User last edited by

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                                    Flobdeth Regular Member last edited by

                                    MULTIKILL!

                                    I like Calems style >:D

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                                      bacobob last edited by

                                      If I’m not mistaken, the trolls in the box are waiting for the algo change too. Seems like the buying is heating up.

                                      how you mean ? we went down 1000 sat last night !

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                                        mirrax last edited by

                                        how you mean ? we went down 1000 sat last night !

                                        I prefere to say 1 tick, but if you look at the long term chart, nothing really happened. Accumulation phase is continuing very well.

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                                          bacobob last edited by

                                          I prefere to say 1 tick, but if you look at the long term chart, nothing really happened. Accumulation phase is continuing very well.

                                          Sorry to say but i dont agree a lot, i trust in the communitie of Ftc but if you look at the long term chart it looks kinda depressing.

                                          and a 5 btc decrease in buy’s at this low rate is not nothing.

                                          But beside that i think a new algo can bring new power to FTC and hopefully a lot new investors

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                                            mirrax last edited by

                                            Sorry to say but i dont agree a lot, i trust in the communitie of Ftc but if you look at the long term chart it looks kinda depressing.

                                            and a 5 btc decrease in buy’s at this low rate is not nothing.

                                            But beside that i think a new algo can bring new power to FTC and hopefully a lot new investors

                                            Think about it that way, FTC was pumped over 100ksat 3 times as “litecoin clone”. I don’t know how long you actively trade or observe FTC, I remember few months ago somebody purchased 1000BTC+ of FTC at 40ksat and it seems he didn’t dumped those coins. Now we will be finaly recognized as not only litecoin clone. Anyway we should discuss this elsewhere, this is development thread. Price predictions or chart analysis doesn’t really belong here ;)

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