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    • lizhi
      lizhi last edited by

      Not connect http, why ?

      error1_pxc.jpg

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      • j_scheibel
        j_scheibel last edited by

        i had the same problem. no idea how to fix it though. i just used one of the 2 pools listed.

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          Lukey_p last edited by

          intel xeon cpu e5-2697 v2 @2.97 ghz

          solo mining - kind of interesting how it degrades despite not running out of logical processors.

          1 thread - 2655 h/s

          2 threads - 5230 h/s

          4 threads - 10kh/s

          8 threads - 20 kh/s

          12 threads - 30 kh/s

          24 threads - 45 kh/s

          32 threads - 64 kh/s

          44 threads - 72 kh/s

          pool mining

          1 thread - 8.9kh/s

          2 thread - 17.2kh/s

          4 threads - 33.3 kh/s

          8 threads - 67.6 kh/s

          12 threads - 100 kh/s *pool miner tends to hang beyond here if I let it run for more than just a few seconds*

          Hi, i assume you are using Hyper-V or VMware and assigning vCPUs, At a guess, i would imagine using HT cores could contend very quickly. Are you in a position to disable HT on the CPU and assign cores only? just to see if a single core gives more that 2 threads with HT on?

          Just a thought.

          Luke

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          • lizhi
            lizhi last edited by

            Yes. Blank or whatever. You can also use “Pool Mining” for solo mining (server = http://127.0.0.1, port = 19554, username and password = what you have in phoenixcoin.conf). There will be a difference in performance though.

            The wallet uses the reference C code for its solo miner. CPUminer (minerd) is powered by the SSE2 assembly code. It is also used for pool mining by the wallet. Try both and report your KH/s. For example, my 3GHz 4-core A8-3870K delivers 10KH/s using the built-in miner and 8KH/s using CPUminer (yes, it’s slower in my case).

            Please give me a screen-shot .

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              FeatherKing last edited by

              I got 3.4 KH/s with 2 threads on I3-2330 2.2 GHz at pool mining.

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              • lizhi
                lizhi last edited by

                Intel G2020 CPU 3.1G is6.5Kh.

                neo_ok1.jpg

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                  Lukey_p last edited by

                  So, i have a question… When the move is complete, do we think CPU mining will actually be viable? Is CPU mining going to be exclusive for a while before GPU? If GPU mining neoscrypt is working on release, will anyone actually use CPU?

                  Just throwing it out there, be nice to have an idea, Cheers

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                  • ghostlander
                    ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                    Not connect http, why ?

                    error1_pxc.jpg

                    Maybe add rpcallowip=127.0.0.1, rpcuser=lizhi and rpcpassword=123 to data/testnet/phoenixcoin.conf?

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                    • j_scheibel
                      j_scheibel last edited by

                      Hi, i assume you are using Hyper-V or VMware and assigning vCPUs, At a guess, i would imagine using HT cores could contend very quickly. Are you in a position to disable HT on the CPU and assign cores only? just to see if a single core gives more that 2 threads with HT on?

                      Just a thought.

                      Luke

                      I wasn’t using any kind of virtual machine. I could go in to the bios and turn off the hyper threading but I can’t imagine that helping overall since you cut the overall power by half. I probably wont be in front of the computer to play with it for a day or so, regardless, I really expect this was more of a bottleneck imposed by the managing process (ie the wallet). I mean the wallet had locking issues when using pool settings with 12 or more threads . so there might be some bugs in there. however, the underlining code that does the new scrypt seems to be running ok though. (which I thought was the point of the test :) )

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                        mirrax last edited by

                        I don’t know if Lizhi is successfull with modification of cgminer?

                        But now two scenarios trouble me a little:

                        1st, botnets targeting Neoscrypt in CPU era

                        2nd, if first GPU miner will be private

                        Is this valid lamentation or not much?

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                        • lizhi
                          lizhi last edited by

                          Hi guys, I’m still not successful . I was caught in the kernel . I refer to the KECCAK, try to write some code. But no progress. :'(

                          I cannot write similar code for Nerscrypt in driver-opencl.c and ocl.c

                          #ifdef USE_KECCAK
                          static cl_int queue_keccak_kernel(_clState *clState, dev_blk_ctx *blk, __maybe_unused cl_uint threads)
                          {
                                  cl_kernel *kernel = &clState->kernel;
                                  unsigned int num = 0;
                                  cl_int status = 0;
                          
                                  status = clEnqueueWriteBuffer(clState->commandQueue,
                                          clState->keccak_CLbuffer, true, 0,
                                          KECCAK_BUFFER_SIZE, &blk->keccak_data[0],
                                          0, NULL,NULL);
                          
                                  CL_SET_ARG(clState->keccak_CLbuffer);
                                  CL_SET_ARG(clState->outputBuffer);
                          
                                  return status;
                          }
                          #endif
                          

                          The biggest difficulty is to write neoscrypt140707.cl, This is a binary code .

                          		case KL_NEOSCRYPT:
                          			strcpy(filename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME".cl");
                          			strcpy(binaryfilename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME);
                          			/* Neoscrypt only supports vector 1 */
                          			cgpu->vwidth = 1;
                          			break;
                          
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                          • lizhi
                            lizhi last edited by

                            This is my project, It comes from cgminer 3.6.6

                            How to build:

                            cd /D/FTC/neoscrypt/max-cgminer-master

                            autoreconf -fvi

                            export LIBCURL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/curl/include

                            export LIBCURL_LIBS=-L/usr/local/curl/lib

                            CFLAGS=“-O2 -msse2” ./configure --enable-scrypt --enable-keccak --enable-neoscrypt

                            make

                            if have error information "undefined reference to `_imp__curl_easy_init’ "

                            you edit Makefile file , add " LIBS = -lpdcurses -lpthread -lcurl -lcurldll "

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                              DemocraticRepublicOfDave last edited by

                              Hi there.

                              Can anyone give me the github links to the “standard” neoscrypt cpuminer and wallet?

                              Lizhi I have your source and am studying it. I am a newbie to opengl but I have been intending for a long time to get into it.

                              Lizhi, am I correct in that the neoscrypt.c/.h files in the standard reference implementation?

                              The main issue for me is to understand the neoscrypt algorithm first.

                              Cheers

                              Dave.

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                                slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                People, I’m following this discussion quite long and I want to ask if audit was performed on the neoscrypt algo?

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                                • ghostlander
                                  ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                  People, I’m following this discussion quite long and I want to ask if audit was performed on the neoscrypt algo?

                                  What kind of audit?

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                                    slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                    Example: What if someone manage to lower the complexity of the algorithm?
                                    Audit in the form of public review of the algorithm by crypto comunity.

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                                      mirrax last edited by

                                      Example: What if someone manage to lower the complexity of the algorithm?
                                      Audit in the form of public review of the algorithm by crypto comunity.

                                      It will be opensource…

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                                      • ghostlander
                                        ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                        Example: What if someone manage to lower the complexity of the algorithm?
                                        Audit in the form of public review of the algorithm by crypto comunity.

                                        I doubt they can get any sensible advantage, but it’s going public with the source code in a couple of days anyway. Anyone can test it until our livenets switch in 2 weeks or so.

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                                          slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                          Great, I’ll check it and share it! Thumbs up!

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                                            bacobob last edited by

                                            So if i get it right the new algo in 2 weeks ;)

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