What if everyone on BTCe had to live together?
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Anonymity is fine. There are plenty of ways to detect a shill or a thief. It begins with having your own goals. Then you’ll resist chasing every word that’s posted because you have something to risk if you do.
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That’s a fantastic question. I’d hope even the smallest of acquaintances wouldn’t be so brazenly dishonest to my face.
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I think anonymity can make the decision to do something immoral less threatening or risky for some.
Some people only choose to be anonymous because they have the intention of doing something not socially acceptable such as Trolls etc.
But there are different layers of anonymity walking down the street if no-one knows you is reasonably anonymous posting on a forum under an assumed name is even more so.
I actively choose not to be anonymous anything I say online I would be happy to say to some ones face I have nothing to hide.
But that is not always the case , anonymity and trust have a difficult relationship.
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Even in a strange town where nobody knows you, it must be harder to look someone in the eye and lie than hammer out a lie on your keyboard.
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Yeah i agree I’m sure it is.
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The flip side is face time gives thieves an opportunity to detect what other people are thinking. If someone’s going to cheat, face time just gives them more metadata. This is why Internet scams have to be much larger scale (hence our impression that it’s less safe online). Internet scams need more suckers to account for the time spent seeking them out. Face time makes it easier for someone who is already intent on manipulating. It just seems worse online because of how much larger they have to be to make a hit.
There’s no anti-spam in face time. You’re gullible or you’re not.
Anonymity is an equalizer, except when the victim is needs visual cues to make decisions.
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That’s an interesting way to look at it. I guess that works both ways round though, you can make your own judgements IRL based upon more tangible factors. You can be scammed on the internet by a guy in his underpants at at his greasy keyboard, whereas he would be required to dress the part IRL. Although, I guess dressing the part could allow you to lower your guard.
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It really does go both ways. I tend toward anonymity, because things move so much faster without the extra meatspace baggage.
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What I am trying to get to with this thought experiment is the relationship between anonymity and authenticity. I’m also interested in accountability and responsibility. The open declaration of our needs, the ability to make ourselves vulnrable to one another.
When is it the right time to be anonymous and engage in zero sum practices moving the wealth around from person to person while enriching the middle men?
When is it the right time to be transparent and accountable, declaring our desires openly and understanding how our short term immediate needs relate the long term sustainability of the system that supports us?
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Start with the real world. Can what’s promised or requested be done and soon?
Now add the individual. Is the individual anonymous or otherwise displaying behavior that suggests they can deliver without funny business.
If they’re legit anonymous or otherwise, you’re going to get a spectrum like this:
Won’t do it, Won’t do it because they think it has to be done by some authority, Can’t do it, Can’t but thinks they can learn it, Can’t but thinks they can,
Can do it but thinks they can’t, Can do it but thinks they’ll screw up, Can do it, Will do it even if authority says to wait, Will do it.
It may sound like I’m nitpicking, but I’ve seen people stare at the world waiting for some expert or authority to change things even when the means for change is within reach. Like some kind of weird deer in headlights effect. They’ve bought into the narrative that certain things should be provided by a legitimate community and they’ll fight to have those things provided when it’s obvious they won’t and it’s also within reach.
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Large projects should have some structure, but for small achievable projects it should be loosely organized like when we got started. No one told anyone what to do. We just got up and did it and that’s pretty close to anonymity in a process sense.
I think we assign some cosmic significance to how we organize and it just slows down the simple things for no reason. How we proceed should be backed by actual need. If I choose to do business for something that’s fairly straight forward I’ll take the small risks if it keeps things flowing. We have a parasite papers please business culture because we bought into papers please culture in our day to day dealings.
Unless I’m hiring someone for daycare services or secure storage space, it’s so much more efficient and fluid to skip the authenticity middleman and just do it. We’ve built a healthcare and security state monster because we’ve bought into the religion of security. Security was supposed to be tied to one’s examination of one’s own character and a result of consideration of others. We’ve flipped that equation and expect the outside world to guarantee security.
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I think after 30 minutes, most people would be like