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      mirrax last edited by

      I am all opened for tweaking parameters and purpose. So far this is interesting discussion.

      Hopefully something potent will be born from this.

      I do not want this issue to fall into oblivion and be forgotten.

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      • MrWyrm
        MrWyrm administrators last edited by

        If the ‘plan’ has been tweaked, the poll is now meaningless.

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          mirrax last edited by

          If the ‘plan’ has been tweaked, the poll is now meaningless.

          So is eating of Carolina Reaper :)

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          • kris_davison
            kris_davison last edited by

            No its just a discussion. Which formed after concerns were raised about the original idea. Its an agile process - challenge -> discuss -> refine -> repeat

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            • MrWyrm
              MrWyrm administrators last edited by

              So is eating of Carolina Reaper :)

              What I mean is, if there is a ‘plan B’, it might be a plan for the voting to reflect the improved options. Some of the ‘bad’ voters may wish to move their votes.

              P.S, have you ever eaten a Reaper?

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                panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                How about we build a decentralised voting system into the wallet where regardless of the amount of ftc you hold in that address, the weighting of your vote remains the same.
                …
                The idea is that everyone can vote by % of sacrifice from the address.

                The big unaddressed problem of bitcoin is centralization of hashing. To truly address it, we would need a proof of human identity, which cannot be mathematical. I don’t know how to solve it, but without it, your suggestion won’t work. True ACP decentralization is also impossible without it.

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                  panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                  Although maybe we should rename it to “FTC Investors Club”…

                  Sorry to nitpick, FTC is not a stock, it is a currency. You do not invest in it, you save it.

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                  • MrWyrm
                    MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                    Pano, I agree with this. To have anonymity means that the creation of multiple identities is possible, which makes the trust issue tricky.

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                      mirrax last edited by

                      What I mean is, if there is a ‘plan B’, it might be a plan for the voting to reflect the improved options. Some of the ‘bad’ voters may wish to move their votes.

                      P.S, have you ever eaten a Reaper?

                      Not yet :)

                      If we evolve the original idea we can make completely new poll later.

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                      • MrWyrm
                        MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                        The big question is, do we need physical human identities or do we just need some sort of cryptographic measure of trust. A digital identity with an unfalsifiable ‘rating’ could increase trust without the need to share identity with people. The digital citizen’s ID ratings could be ruined by running a scam. How you’d keep this from being falsified is tricky. But in my mind, the incentive of losing your ‘reputation’ is strong glue in the real world that prevents people from acting out of character, there might be a way to emulate this for digital cititzens.

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                        • MrWyrm
                          MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                          Not yet :)

                          If we evolve the original idea we can make completely new poll later.

                          Plan.

                          I’ve not eaten anything quite that hot either. TBH, a habanero is a horrendous enough experience raw.

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                          • kris_davison
                            kris_davison last edited by

                            I don’t mean we invest “in” FTC we invest “with” FTC.

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                              panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                              The big question is, do we need physical human identities or do we just need some sort of cryptographic measure of trust. A digital identity with an unfalsifiable ‘rating’ could increase trust without the need to share identity with people. The digital citizen’s ID ratings could be ruined by running a scam. How you’d keep this from being falsified is tricky. But in my mind, the incentive of losing your ‘reputation’ is strong glue in the real world that prevents people from acting out of character, there might be a way to emulate this for digital cititzens.

                              Considering the needs of ACP decentralization, we would need a “proof” of autonomous personhood. (Real mathematical proof of this is impossible.) Once identified, we would assume that private keys of persons prove their autonomous participation. Decentralized ACP would have to be rewarded, which would also provide the answer to future Neoscrypt ASICs. White market will provide identity checking an pairing of persons with wallets.

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                                slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                Based on the discussion I think that development and features need to be driven by comunity and developers.

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                                  mirrax last edited by

                                  Based on the discussion I think that development and features need to be driven by comunity and developers.

                                  Sure, but the development cost something (i.e. ACP - 10BTC? for Sunny, GPU miner - 1,5BTC? for Andre…)

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                                  • MrWyrm
                                    MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                                    I agree that there needs to be a way to monetise things.

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                                      slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                      This means we don’t have dev. community if there is need to buy features and tools… As I know another coins have their own dev. teams that invest in coin in order to increase value of their property…

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                                        slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                        I’m thinking about investing with development but here I have seen a lot of good projects that are idle now and were always on the second place because some “nice” reads or scam operations took their place…
                                        But really isn’t time to speak about the past it will be good to focus on the feature and learn from mistakes

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                                          panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                                          … focus on the feature and learn from mistakes

                                          you said a mouthful there

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                                          • lizhi
                                            lizhi last edited by

                                            I hope Developers should hold 100K FTC and the other team members should hold 50K FTC. :)

                                            We go to heaven or go to hell

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