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      Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

      Preparing my GCN kernel for public release; cleaning code, removing stuff I tried that really sucked, like completely unrolled chacha/salsa, stuff like that. After that, I’ll package it up with SGMiner and it should be good to go. Should give results like this (NSFW): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/neoscryptwolf-11082014.png

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        Alpha Wolf last edited by

        Preparing my GCN kernel for public release; cleaning code, removing stuff I tried that really sucked, like completely unrolled chacha/salsa, stuff like that. After that, I’ll package it up with SGMiner and it should be good to go. Should give results like this (NSFW): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/neoscryptwolf-11082014.png

        Those numbers look great, can’t wait to try this. :)

        Does the version of SGMiner your building have xIntensity or have you given any thought to using cgminer 3.7.3 Kalroth that has xIntensity for a build?

        More info can be found here from that page it states the new SGMIner 4.1 has xintensity and might be a better choose. Personally I like

        cgminer better and had better results with it than sgminer so far.

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          Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

          Those numbers look great, can’t wait to try this. :)

          Does the version of SGMiner your building have xIntensity or have you given any thought to using cgminer 3.7.3 Kalroth that has xIntensity for a build?

          More info can be found here from that page it states the new SGMIner 4.1 has xintensity and might be a better choose. Personally I like

          cgminer better and had better results with it than sgminer so far.

          Doesn’t matter - kernel can be used with both.

          EDIT: It can be used with any CGMiner/SGMiner that has Neoscrypt support, that is.

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            daimyo last edited by

            WHOOOOOOOOOOOA!!!

            Installed 14.9 drivers and got cgminer 3.8.7

            The result:

            hashrate jumped from 95 to 135!!! :))) Same temps!!!

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              Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

              WHOOOOOOOOOOOA!!!

              Installed 14.9 drivers and got cgminer 3.8.7

              The result:

              hashrate jumped from 95 to 135!!! :))) Same temps!!!

              Was that your first time using my fixed kernel on 14.9?

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                daimyo last edited by

                Was that your first time using my fixed kernel on 14.9?

                Actually yes… i guess i am being a bit slow on those updates :D Good job! Thanks for your involvement

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                  Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                  Actually yes… i guess i am being a bit slow on those updates :D Good job! Thanks for your involvement

                  No problem; you should be getting more hash soon!

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                    slowhash Regular Member last edited by

                    No problem; you should be getting more hash soon!

                    Let me step right up and personally thank you for the development you have done on this.

                    Post a btc address and I’ll send you a couple satoshi, or post a guncoin address and I’ll send you a couple thousand. ;)

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                      xIIImaL last edited by

                      neoscrypt_vliw.cl v2

                      It’s 19.5KH/s now on a HD6970. FastKDF and BLAKE2s have been cleaned up and optimised, memory requirements reduced.

                      Yeah, I’ve mentioned this in my white paper. Not sure if it’s of any use for mining.

                      It is, but that’s not what concerns me now. With FastKDF removed, the kernel gets reduced in size by ~60% and outputs 30KH/s.That’s a big overhead, but not critical and I’ve expected more out of ChaCha + Salsa. With ChaCha only enabled, it’s 58KH/s and with Salsa only = 56KH/s. Scalar Salsa isn’t supposed to be about as fast as vectorised ChaCha. It’s clearly scalar because the AMD compiler isn’t really smart and the kernel size is about double of ChaCha only size. Anyway, there is a huge bottleneck somewhere and it needs to be identified.

                      Don’t work for me now. Cards in rig: 6950,6870,5870, miner 3.7.7b. Screen:

                      sLuw0uLztSM.jpg

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                        insanid last edited by

                        Don’t work for me now. Cards in rig: 6950,6870,5870, miner 3.7.7b. Screen:

                        sLuw0uLztSM.jpg

                        Post more information.

                        For example:

                        Windows version and if it is 64 or 32-bit

                        AMD Catalyst drivers

                        what worksize are you using?

                        have you set the following environmental vars?

                        GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100

                        GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

                        also, upgrade to 3.7.7c or use sgminer

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                          insanid last edited by

                          I submitted a bug report to sgminer-dev github in regards to the apparent worksize issue in sgminer-dev binaries on Win64.

                          https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/issues/394

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                            xIIImaL last edited by

                            Post more information.

                            For example:

                            Windows version and if it is 64 or 32-bit

                            AMD Catalyst drivers

                            what worksize are you using?

                            have you set the following environmental vars?

                            GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100

                            GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

                            also, upgrade to 3.7.7c or use sgminer

                            Yep, i forgot this settings: GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100 , GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1… on sgminer5 now works fine, thanks! 24 kh/s on radeon 6870 :))

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                              Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                              Let me step right up and personally thank you for the development you have done on this.

                              Post a btc address and I’ll send you a couple satoshi, or post a guncoin address and I’ll send you a couple thousand. ;)

                              I will once the release happens; still waiting on a withdrawal.

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                              • ghostlander
                                ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                Don’t work for me now. Cards in rig: 6950,6870,5870, miner 3.7.7b. Screen:
                                sLuw0uLztSM.jpg

                                MAX_GLOBAL_THREADS equals to CONCURRENT_THREADS in SGminer and other non-customised miners. This is --thread-concurrency.

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                                  lizhi last edited by

                                  Great work , neoscrypt_vliw.cl v2 is very good ,my 6770 card can work. :)

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                                    Henle last edited by

                                    I updated my drivers from 14.4 to 14.9 on an HD 6950 with shaders unlocked (Windows 7 64 bit). My hashrates increased a little, but I stopped getting accepteds. I tried Wolf0s’ sgminer build, and cgminer 3.7.8. I even tried redownloading sgminer to start with a clean slate.

                                    I am using GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100

                                    GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

                                    I tried reducing intensity, lowering -w, and some other stuff.

                                    I uninstalled the 14.9 and reinstalled 13.12 drivers (I didn’t really love 14.4) and I get accepteds again.

                                    Still at 16 Kh/s when newer cards get almost 10X that. On both scrypt and groestl, HD 6950s are good for about 1/2 what a 290X gets (450 Kh/s scrypt and 7.5 Mh/s groestl.) But it is much better than it was, so thanks Wolf0 and Ghostlander. Hopefully we’ll get up to 50-75 Kh/s soon on the older hardware.

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                                      Lukey_p last edited by

                                      Hi, so im using CGMiner 3.7.8 with 14.9 7970 with R9 280X bios: cgminer --neoscrypt -I 15 -g 2 -w 48 --gpu-memclock 1400 --gpu-engine 1000

                                      Im getting 110Kh/s, Do you guys think this is about right? Or should i be getting more?

                                      Cheers

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                                        RIPPEDDRAGON Regular Member last edited by

                                        Thats about right, depends on the memory type, some of my 7970s/280x wont go above 135 at 1125/1500 while other ramp all the way up to 160-170 khs

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                                          ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                          There is no point of using HD5000 and HD6000 series with v14.x drivers. They are all optimised for the GCN cards. I’m fine with v13.1 and SDK v2.6. v13.4 also seems good. v13.8beta was crap. Didn’t even bother with v13.12 and newer.

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                                            Alpha Wolf last edited by

                                            There is no point of using HD5000 and HD6000 series with v14.x drivers. They are all optimised for the GCN cards. I’m fine with v13.1 and SDK v2.6. v13.4 also seems good. v13.8beta was crap. Didn’t even bother with v13.12 and newer.

                                            I’m pretty sure I have 13.12 on my rig with the 69xx cards and maybe this is why I only saw a 1.25kh/s increase in hash with the v2 over v1?

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