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      svennand Regular Member last edited by

      [quote name=“ghostlander” post=“6830” timestamp=“1369604807”]
      A typical successful 51% attack allows the attackers to spend money twice. Having superior hash power, they can generate blocks faster than the rest of the network. They can fork the block chain, spend money on either branch with the necessary number of confirmations required, then abandon it by switching to the other branch where the money were not spent and continue it to make the primary block chain eventually. Confirmed transactions on the abandoned (orphaned) branch will be void; unconfirmed transactions are likely to be submitted by the clients again. Such activity requires much more hash power than 51% though. The attackers often try to DDoS largest pools to decrease network hash rate. If they’re down, the assault becomes easier.
      [/quote]

      So people should set up their client for either another pool or solo mining as backup, can be easily done with --failover-only in cgminer, to keep the hashrate up during an 51%/ddos attack

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        chrisj Regular Member last edited by

        [quote name=“svennand” post=“6832” timestamp=“1369605037”]
        [quote author=ghostlander link=topic=853.msg6830#msg6830 date=1369604807]
        A typical successful 51% attack allows the attackers to spend money twice. Having superior hash power, they can generate blocks faster than the rest of the network. They can fork the block chain, spend money on either branch with the necessary number of confirmations required, then abandon it by switching to the other branch where the money were not spent and continue it to make the primary block chain eventually. Confirmed transactions on the abandoned (orphaned) branch will be void; unconfirmed transactions are likely to be submitted by the clients again. Such activity requires much more hash power than 51% though. The attackers often try to DDoS largest pools to decrease network hash rate. If they’re down, the assault becomes easier.
        [/quote]

        So people should set up their client for either another pool or solo mining as backup, can be easily done with --failover-only in cgminer, to keep the hashrate up during an 51%/ddos attack
        [/quote]

        I get about 15k/h mining LTC. Is it even worth me solomining? I couldn’t seem to connect to any of the pools kept coming back with json error. Though as I said I mine LTC using Ozpool just fine.

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          ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

          Scrypt botnets are CPU only. Consider about 30KH/s for a 3GHz quad core i7 with HT enabled. A 3GHz Core 2 Duo or Athlon X2 won’t hit even 10KH/s while an old mainstream HD5750 is capable of >150KH/s. Fat chance for botnets.

          15KH/s? It’s not worth to mine solo with 150KH/s or even with 1.5MH/s unless difficulty descreases significantly.

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            J4c0b5L4tt3r last edited by

            [quote]Scrypt botnets are CPU only. Consider about 30KH/s for a 3GHz quad core i7 with HT enabled. A 3GHz Core 2 Duo or Athlon X2 won’t hit even 10KH/s while an old mainstream HD5750 is capable of >150KH/s. Fat chance for botnets.

            15KH/s? It’s not worth to mine solo with 150KH/s or even with 1.5MH/s unless difficulty descreases significantly.[/quote]

            Well that is good to know:)

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              zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

              [quote name=“ghostlander” post=“6840” timestamp=“1369607721”]
              Scrypt botnets are CPU only. Consider about 30KH/s for a 3GHz quad core i7 with HT enabled. A 3GHz Core 2 Duo or Athlon X2 won’t hit even 10KH/s while an old mainstream HD5750 is capable of >150KH/s. Fat chance for botnets.

              15KH/s? It’s not worth to mine solo with 150KH/s or even with 1.5MH/s unless difficulty descreases significantly.
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              1: GPU botnets by injecting mining code into a fake upgrade for a game.
              2: Data centers and botnets with 10s of thousands per fleet.

              Still most likely is people who believe in ZTC, Zee Troo Coeen! putting together a rogue pool.

              There is a simple way to handle this. Set up the marketplace in forum so we ignore the prices on the exchanges. Those prices are pure fantasy and we should only use them to acquire cheap coins from unbelievers.

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                ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                Most people with Radeons don’t even bother to install OpenCL. BTW, scrypt miner needs to be configured manually in order to run fast.

                [quote]There is a simple way to handle this. Set up the marketplace in forum so we ignore the prices on the exchanges. Those prices are pure fantasy and we should only use them to acquire cheap coins from unbelievers.[/quote]

                A good idea.

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                  zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                  [quote name=“ghostlander” post=“7082” timestamp=“1369653620”]
                  Most people with Radeons don’t even bother to install OpenCL. BTW, scrypt miner needs to be configured manually in order to run fast.
                  [/quote]

                  The upgrade would do the install.

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                    Clearcrystal15 last edited by

                    Very clear and transparant :)

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                      Juggernog last edited by

                      Very informative.

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                        FoBoT last edited by

                        is there something happening with attack? i am seeing trouble connecting to two different pools and the total hash# is down and the FTC hash# on coinotron is down alot

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                          sheepson Regular Member last edited by

                          ftc.d2.cc pool is working just fine, I also have trouble reaching http://www.coinotron.com/ so it seems coinotron might have some troubles…

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                            Piedaddy last edited by

                            people talking about attacks…is it true or bogus?

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                              meetrat1 last edited by

                              Something odd is going on right now, most pools are down and my deposit to btc-e hasn’t been credited at 16 confirms. I am dedicating hashrate right now to help counteract the attack that is likely happening right now I hope others do as well.

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                                justabitoftime last edited by

                                [quote name=“meetrat1” post=“11200” timestamp=“1370732355”]
                                Something odd is going on right now, most pools are down and my deposit to btc-e hasn’t been credited at 16 confirms. I am dedicating hashrate right now to help counteract the attack that is likely happening right now I hope others do as well.
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                                The 16 confirms isn’t unusual… last week, I had more than that until they eventually confirmed it.

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                                  aysyr Regular Member last edited by

                                  [quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“11202” timestamp=“1370732431”]
                                  [quote author=meetrat1 link=topic=853.msg11200#msg11200 date=1370732355]
                                  Something odd is going on right now, most pools are down and my deposit to btc-e hasn’t been credited at 16 confirms. I am dedicating hashrate right now to help counteract the attack that is likely happening right now I hope others do as well.
                                  [/quote]

                                  The 16 confirms isn’t unusual… last week, I had more than that until they eventually confirmed it.
                                  [/quote]

                                  Last time I transferred FTC there it took over 40 confirms lol

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                                    meetrat1 last edited by

                                    [quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“11202” timestamp=“1370732431”]
                                    The 16 confirms isn’t unusual… last week, I had more than that until they eventually confirmed it.
                                    [/quote]

                                    Oh ok good to know, thanks.

                                    Edit: Pools seem to be back up.

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                                      justabitoftime last edited by

                                      [quote name=“meetrat1” post=“11206” timestamp=“1370732808”]
                                      [quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=853.msg11202#msg11202 date=1370732431]
                                      The 16 confirms isn’t unusual… last week, I had more than that until they eventually confirmed it.
                                      [/quote]

                                      Oh ok good to know, thanks. Although it seems as though something is up given that most ftc pools seem to be down.
                                      [/quote]

                                      The pools are something I don’t know about… I’m shooting our Miner leads and Bushstar a message. The additional confirmations from BTC-e are to protect possible attacks.

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                                        Nutnut Regular Member last edited by

                                        I think summat could be up.

                                        I have found no blocks all day and now the block that I did mine has died too. Started mining back on Serraz pool and lost a block there too. Been over 2 hours since finding a successful block.

                                        On the other hand… Could be crappy luck. :-\

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                                          Nutnut Regular Member last edited by

                                          Coinotron has posted a news update stating that ftc is under attack too.

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                                            Radacoin last edited by

                                            [quote name=“Nutnut” post=“11208” timestamp=“1370733321”]
                                            On the other hand… Could be crappy luck. :-\
                                            [/quote]

                                            … maybe not.

                                            Stats from coinotron (all orphaned):

                                            [tt]Block # Solved on Duration Shares Difficulty Payout Status Finder
                                            33615 2013-06-08 23:13:57 1:3:10 11458304 94.0861 364.23 [color=red]Orphan [/color]vivabnet
                                            33610 2013-06-08 22:10:47 0:7:42 2379584 94.0861 75.64 Orphan fishyu
                                            33607 2013-06-08 22:03:05 0:25:46 8099392 94.0861 257.46 Orphan bausoldat
                                            33605 2013-06-08 21:37:19 0:3:1 945280 94.0861 30.05 Orphan bebicao
                                            33604 2013-06-08 21:34:18 0:5:41 1834112 94.0861 58.30 Orphan 888999
                                            33602 2013-06-08 21:28:37 0:17:23 5621952 94.0861 178.71 Orphan hell
                                            33601 2013-06-08 21:11:14 0:6:22 2001728 94.0861 63.63 Orphan Xeno
                                            33600 2013-06-08 21:04:52 0:13:3 4054912 94.0861 128.89 Orphan clangner
                                            33597 2013-06-08 20:51:49 0:7:2 2181824 94.0861 69.35 Orphan w00x
                                            33596 2013-06-08 20:44:47 0:1:40 646080 94.0861 20.54 Orphan deanlikescomi[/tt]

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