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    • zerodrama
      zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

      I’ll take #2 for Flux. I’ll play with some kind of module registration steps but we are go. o/.

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      • zerodrama
        zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

        [quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“41448” timestamp=“1386477154”]
        [quote author=Kevlar link=topic=5558.msg41442#msg41442 date=1386475508]
        Anyone else have any other op-codes they would like to see?
        [/quote]

        be gentle, I have no clue what’s possible or already handled by something else but …

        If there will exist categories, will they be handled via the keywords?
        (source file) File type.
        (source file) File size.
        A few “Arbitrary user-defined meta-data” to be used as users please. Possibly to cover the three above.
        [/quote]

        I’m not completely against that, but file type is discoverable from format in the beginning of the file. File size sounds like an important one tho.
        Keep in mind, we can use modules now and modules can replace each other except 0 and F. 1 is a feature of Link so required for full Link, but it’s not as critical as the core and sequencing.

        Think of it like mix and match modules in the same blockchain for custom applications without the 80+ odd coin.

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        • zerodrama
          zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

          Kevlar, I think you did it better. With the exception of 0 and F, the 2nd byte F is the only one that needs to be explicitly describing the module itself.
          So now there’s 15 OpCodes for each module.

          0 is the core, F keeps it tied together, 1 is for users. I claim 2 (20 - 2F) for FLUX.

          EGGCELENTE.

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          • zerodrama
            zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

            There’s no one else doing this lol. I love it. They’ll be cloning us soon.

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            • zerodrama
              zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

              Kevlar, I forked the suppository. I’ll be working on Modules.md and modules/FLUX/README.md. Goosebumps.

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                Kevlar Spammer last edited by

                [quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“41448” timestamp=“1386477154”]
                If there will exist categories, will they be handled via the keywords?
                [/quote]

                Categories are something that can be left up to the users to define. For instance, they could make a special keyword that starts with a #, and whatever follows it is a category… “#tucksporn”. Then it’s up to the client how they want to deal with organizing them.

                [quote]
                (source file) File type.
                (source file) File size.
                [/quote]

                Included and included! 8)

                [quote]
                A few “Arbitrary user-defined meta-data” to be used as users please. Possibly to cover the three above.
                [/quote]

                Included! 3 for 3! :D

                [quote]
                Edit : What about the ability to make these private? Sure the source file can be encrypted, but what about allowing entries to be private (password protected or otherwise) or the ability to designate who the source files are made available to be it individuals or a group or a continent, etc.
                [/quote]

                Well, it’s the blockchain. You can’t specify who can/can’t see the blockchain. Encryption is the correct solution.

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                  Kevlar Spammer last edited by

                  [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“41449” timestamp=“1386477214”]
                  I’ll take #2 for Flux. I’ll play with some kind of module registration steps but we are go. o/.
                  [/quote]

                  Perfect. :) 2 is reserved for Flux!

                  [quote author=zerodrama link=topic=5558.msg41457#msg41457 date=1386478519]
                  Kevlar, I forked the suppository. I’ll be working on Modules.md and modules/FLUX/README.md. Goosebumps.
                  [/quote]

                  Awesome! Very excited. ;D

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                    Tuck Fheman last edited by

                    [quote name=“Kevlar” post=“41459” timestamp=“1386479163”]
                    “#tucksporn”
                    [/quote]

                    lulz

                    [quote author=Kevlar link=topic=5558.msg41459#msg41459 date=1386479163]
                    Included! 3 for 3! :D
                    [/quote]

                    [Celebratory GIF]

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                    • K
                      Kevlar Spammer last edited by

                      Ok! Meta-data is done, sequencing is done, and the first example test sequence is done! How exciting! Go check it out!

                      I’m going to do one more example sequence, then I’m going to encode it and send it to the blockchain! I’ll keep you posted!

                      I need a torrent to encode for the next example. Specifically a magnet link. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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                        Tuck Fheman last edited by

                        [url=http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8188870/TPB_AFK__The_Pirate_Bay_Away_from_Keyboard_(2013)_720p_h264_581m]http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8188870/TPB_AFK__The_Pirate_Bay_Away_from_Keyboard_(2013)_720p_h264_581m[/url]

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                          Nixxle last edited by

                          I think I’ll take on the job of cheerleader.

                          You guys are doing awesome!

                          [img]http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/cheerleader-gifs.jpg[/img]

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                            mnstrcck last edited by

                            Just reading about this guy:

                            [url=http://datacoin.info]datacoin.info[/url]

                            Looks like a similar - albeit different concept.

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                              Nixxle last edited by

                              That looks like it would be one giant chain. Please forgive this question, because it’s been birthed in a pool of total ignorance, but would a file sharing blockchain suffer issues from a ballooning size? I know there has been mostly technical discussion here, so if its been addressed or is irrelevant, just pat me on the back and give me a sugar cookie.

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                              • zerodrama
                                zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                                [quote name=“Nixxle” post=“41910” timestamp=“1386564560”]
                                That looks like it would be one giant chain. Please forgive this question, because it’s been birthed in a pool of total ignorance, but would a file sharing blockchain suffer issues from a ballooning size? I know there has been mostly technical discussion here, so if its been addressed or is irrelevant, just pat me on the back and give me a sugar cookie.
                                [/quote]

                                Yes it would.

                                Link protocol simply makes torrent files available.

                                Flux will enable massive file storage.

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                                  Kevlar Spammer last edited by

                                  [quote name=“Nixxle” post=“41910” timestamp=“1386564560”]
                                  That looks like it would be one giant chain. Please forgive this question, because it’s been birthed in a pool of total ignorance, but would a file sharing blockchain suffer issues from a ballooning size? I know there has been mostly technical discussion here, so if its been addressed or is irrelevant, just pat me on the back and give me a sugar cookie.
                                  [/quote]

                                  No… blockchains with lots of usage suffer from a ballooning size. When you embed Link in the blockchain, you destroy coins, meaning you’ll NEVER send them again. That means you’ll NEVER grow the blockchain with those coins again.

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                                    Kevlar Spammer last edited by

                                    Ha! I did it.

                                    Wrote up a program in Node that accepts the magnet link, name, and keywords, and generates the addresses. The code is in github here: https://github.com/TSavo/Link

                                    You can even check them on blockchain.info, and see the link encoded message!

                                    [code]
                                    C:\NodeLink\NodeLink>node LinkAddressMaker.js
                                    What is the magnet link? magnet:?xt=urn:btih:fbab636f9c91fb58038055dfce83cd8099a
                                    7366e&dn=TPB+AFK%3A+The+Pirate+Bay+Away+from+Keyboard+%282013%29+720p+h264+581m
                                    What is the name?TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away from Keyboard (2013) 720p h264 581
                                    m
                                    Keywords?TPB AFK,The Pirate Bay,Away From Keyboard,Simon Klose,Documentary,720p
                                    17y2f5PYdSwFhzPTjPpMTVmZVTsttnpzk9
                                    1B3qGjZ9SeqtuTcddSk5GHBry8BQnpRDWz
                                    19xGyZ8rM6BxouZH6NDRVpJr4dkwrCfZ2M
                                    16EPybUXLYBsUvPGCjNYdvPh8V5SnACDYY
                                    16waq56MzXV8RKtA4x8XB34MLcJZHAEiTv
                                    1C3gki8S17uBbE8WTnkKe1ciihEJvSphn9
                                    15PpNfoKrEqwFoEPo8maqgUJM5Wfwe9vBe
                                    1AwfpgH8E6c4K273EVsd4jNY7oheZybKZz
                                    19tHysnPeZZuiXsxwBGxzuxsXzPEjWxBz9
                                    1C4pgbr41jxhfWpVEkvHGSih5eRGUiWjDy
                                    15aVij3HUiLfCwKz7mEroiFQbsYqkAUjKZ
                                    1AWzRKnFNC6y5QLSngBMc4JDGM2AMbJAog
                                    1BS5WuK3FynDCSjQpAwE2HAT9MwHmnCeGn
                                    1AtMVTEx3eduyjRvAcUhok4Gsd3YjsZdGy
                                    1BDCgV8ZgmTFz18ASzmhiJgXqbYuxPToBr
                                    [/code]

                                    Try putting that first address into blockchain.info. Not only is it a valid address, but if you look at the hash160, you’ll see the Link protocol in action!

                                    [code]
                                    4c696e6b0100866d61676e65743a3f78743d7572
                                    ^^^^^^^^ Link Start sequence
                                    ^^ Inline payload op-code
                                    ^^^^ size
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The magnet link (well, the first few bytes)
                                    [/code]

                                    Ooooooooomg so exciting!

                                    Ok, next up is to do it with Feathercoin addresses, and then to actually send the transaction using your donated coins.

                                    But for that I need to know: What’s the Feathercoin version number? Bitcoin is 0x00 for mainnet. What’s FTC’s?

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                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      [img]http://whinybaby.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/mind-blown.jpg[/img]
                                      +1 rep
                                      and
                                      110 ftc coming your way.

                                      [img]http://image.bayimg.com/2b719c8bc91b2374fe431bf2e7c73d60bcd26f47.jpg[/img]

                                      [size=8pt]Sorry, tried to cut or hide or spoiler but I couldn’t figure out how. If someone can give me the BBcode, I’ll fix this… or simply just remove the screencap.[/size]

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                                        Kevlar Spammer last edited by

                                        Ok, I spent a bunch of time cleaning up the code.

                                        You can now do:
                                        [code]
                                        var sequence = new LinkSequenceBuilder();
                                        sequence.addPayloadInline(magnet);
                                        sequence.addName(name);
                                        sequence.addKeywords(keywords);
                                        var buf = new Buffer(sequence.toString(), “hex”);
                                        var addresses = encodeAddresses(buf, 0x00);
                                        for (x in addresses) {
                                        console.log(addresses[x]);
                                        }
                                        [/code]

                                        Which I think is a whole lot cleaner than my first pass. Bushstar just got back to me with the version number for Feathercoin so I’m gonna give it a try here in just a few…

                                        Edit: Tried it out in the code… looks pretty feathery to me!!!

                                        [code]
                                        C:\NodeLink\NodeLink>node LinkAddressMaker.js
                                        What is the magnet link? aaaaaaaaaaaa
                                        What is the name?aaaaaaaaaaaa
                                        Keywords?aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
                                        6khUSbZaZtMv7czsXDqxWKgKTxofTBbtzY
                                        6djhcj3jj1v97miAFqNZ97Vzdaqw1RCTQS
                                        6ncLzEh3A1MJ3G7CkakETFdLwE3h93Aa1z
                                        [/code]

                                        I’m going to give it a try… wish me luck!

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                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          [me=Calem]wishes Kevlar all the luck possible![/me]

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                                            Kevlar Spammer last edited by

                                            So it ALMOST worked using the client.

                                            Unfortunately the client stuck the change address in the middle of the sequence:

                                            [url=http://ftc.cryptocoinexplorer.com/tx/cc66ef78c1bcfbaf2a691b3dda77847bc80350ad262f17af38f7950879ecaef2#o2]http://ftc.cryptocoinexplorer.com/tx/cc66ef78c1bcfbaf2a691b3dda77847bc80350ad262f17af38f7950879ecaef2#o2[/url]

                                            Bummer. Owell, this simply means I’ll have to write my own client to do the sending so it always gets the sequence in the right order.

                                            OMG I’m so excited that this almost worked. If you ignore that change send, you can see it totally did exactly what it was supposed to!!!

                                            Tomorrow I’ll work on some code to reverse the process and read them back out of the blockchain. It’s pretty straightforward actually. ;D

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