Scryptcloud owes you:

mhamilton79

got a pm from his brother…

"Hello,

I would like to start off by explaining that I am not Shane, I am his brother. I am completely against what he did and would like to help you in any way I can in getting your money back, however there are limits as to what I can do/information I can give. I can’t do help you if my brother finds out about me contacting you so please for the sake of getting your money back do not tell him. So if there is any information you need let me know and I’ll see what I can do.

I really don’t want this to escalate any further than it has to so I ask you to not get anyone else involved other than the people who bought mining contracts for as long as possible, there can be a easy and maybe even profitable solution to this as not all the money has been spent."

HopeStillFlies

[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“54846” timestamp=“1390604938”]
1. communicate through a VPN based in ireland.
[/quote]I’d like to go ahead and knock this one out of the way.

Is any moderator or admin willing to release the list of IPs he connected from? I think SMF can do that without going to every single post.

Reason being I’d like to compare it to a list of known VPN IPs, Tor exit nodes and all the SOCKS5 over at a site I’m subscribed to.

It’s a long shot, but if there’s one hit it’d give validity. If not, chances are good he posted from his home or a local wifi spot. That by itself is not good enough to tie an IP to an identity, but can be used to support the other information.

mhamilton79

[quote name=“MegaMike” post=“54862” timestamp=“1390609327”]
He also doesn’t fit the profile of a scammer. Or he’s the most brilliant one ever.

Dragging his a*s into court might be the wrong way. If you want criminal justice (or whatever it’s called) then know that that is all about punishing bad guys, and nothing, NOTHING, will be done for the victims = money lost, whether the judge finds him quilty or not. You’ll need a different (and likely more costly) type of legal action to get him to repair the damages. Which he says he’s willing to do already, without court. Except that he’s not speaking to the people he should be speaking to (Kevlar?)

Best bet might still be to work with him and whatever he’s got. But he’s changed, or added to his story, every time he posts something. Shees, that doesn’t help in building up credibility…

[edit] Oww… the one rig he showed wasn’t even real… What a mess…
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if he is willing to cooperate (which i doubt) then getting him to sign a legal agreement agreeing to repay the money might be an idea, but a guy like this will just go bankrupt and stick his finger up at us all. Best is trying to get him locked up - we have so much evidence. He hasn’t got anything. he has spent all our money on gold & motorbikes

finalbillybong

This is getting beyond silly.

Kevlar

First of all I want to assure you the best course for everyone involved is for everyone to just relax a little, and work this out calmly.

FTClover has reached out to me, and I’ll be responding in detail with what I think he should do.

In the mean time, I have some good news. I’ve been in touch with a partner of his who built the website. He has voulenteered to refund his portion of the money, which totals at 8.885 BTC.

I’ve started a google document where I will be keeping track of who is owed what. I’ll be publishing that tomorrow.

If you haven’t already, I need you to PM me with the following information:
How much you paid.
[b]The TX ID of your payment.[/b]
The Date of the payment.
Where you want the refund sent.

We need to be SUPER strict about that TX id. It needs to match the amount you made, and the time you claim to have made it. If you need help finding it, please let me know.

I’ll be putting all this into the google doc tomorrow, so please PM me right away with the above information so I can get this process underway.

In the mean time I’ll be working with FTClover as best I can to make sure this doesn’t have to be any more painful than is absolutely necessary. My goal is to get you all your money back, and have us go our separate ways amicably.

I’m also assembling a document with EVERYONE’s findings in it. So far I have just about everything you could ask for: IP addresses, real name, verified real addresses, alternate accounts on popular forums, screenshots of all the messages he’s written, screen shots of the website in different stages, private chat logs on skype, emails… I mean it’s getting out of hand here how much data I’ve collected.

I will NOT be releasing this to anyone. I will not make it public, and I will not publish it under any circumstances. I will, however, surrender it to the authorities/a retained lawyer if it becomes necessary to take legal action. It’s my firm belief we can avoid that though through mediation and calm discussion, which I hope to carry out privately with FTClover in the next few days.

I’ll keep you all updated with my progress. Please PM me your transaction details if you haven’t.

spynappels

Thanks Kevlar.

@HopeStillFlies: I won’t publish the IPs unless Pete explicitly tells me to, but I can confirm that FTClover registered with, and until recently used, an IP belonging to an Irish ISP called UPC.

Recently he has started using an IP which appears to be either a VPN or Tor exit node which has also been used by a number of different members. This number should not be used to try and get a geolocation on him.

I am certain that FTClover is in the Republic of Ireland, so let me put the Irish VPN thing to bed once and for all.

Kevlar

[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54878” timestamp=“1390634942”]
Thanks Kevlar.

@HopeStillFlies: I won’t publish the IPs unless Pete explicitly tells me to, but I can confirm that FTClover registered with, and until recently used, an IP belonging to an Irish ISP called UPC.

Recently he has started using an IP which appears to be either a VPN or Tor exit node which has also been used by a number of different members. This number should not be used to try and get a geolocation on him.

I am certain that FTClover is in the Republic of Ireland, so let me put the Irish VPN thing to bed once and for all.
[/quote]

Nope, there’s no need for any of that.

I’m serious: [b]THE STREET JUSTICE MENTALITY ENDS NOW[/b] or you can all find someone else to moderate this. There will be no publishing of personal data from here on out no matter what who says. The forum hack where all this data was stolen and is now being sold is bad enough, we don’t need to lower ourselves to that level. I’m moderating this to protect FTClover from an angry mob showing up on his door, and arming people with more information to track him by doesn’t help me at all. If you know something important, relevant, or related, PM me but [u]do not publish it[/u].

flcph

[quote name=“mnstrcck” post=“54793” timestamp=“1390598007”]
IMPORTANT:

Everyone on this list, find out what BTC/FTC address your payment went to. Hope needs them so she can use the power of an open ledger to do a simple audit and see if his claims are true.

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just technical question how you do that thank you

Ok, so i missed this whole topic/thread…

>I’ll have a thorough read through.

Set to notify.

spynappels

[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“54880” timestamp=“1390635250”]
Nope, there’s no need for any of that.

I’m serious: [b]THE STREET JUSTICE MENTALITY ENDS NOW[/b] or you can all find someone else to moderate this. There will be no publishing of personal data from here on out no matter what who says. The forum hack where all this data was stolen and is now being sold is bad enough, we don’t need to lower ourselves to that level. I’m moderating this to protect FTClover from an angry mob showing up on his door, and arming people with more information to track him by doesn’t help me at all. If you know something important, relevant, or related, PM me but [u]do not publish it[/u].
[/quote]

Hi Kevlar. I agree with you, and that was actually what I was trying to do, allay a genuine concern without revealing any more information. Ireland is a big place :)

However, in the interests of getting this resolved, I agree that Kevlar and FTClover and all those actually involved in terms of having paid monies should be given the space to work this out, and I believe that any further discussion should take place within a private framework facilitated by Kevlar.

I trust Kevlar to do whatever is best for all concerned, and I strongly recommend that everyone else do so too.

Stefan

[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54885” timestamp=“1390636460”]
[quote author=Kevlar link=topic=7176.msg54880#msg54880 date=1390635250]
Nope, there’s no need for any of that.

I’m serious: [b]THE STREET JUSTICE MENTALITY ENDS NOW[/b] or you can all find someone else to moderate this. There will be no publishing of personal data from here on out no matter what who says. The forum hack where all this data was stolen and is now being sold is bad enough, we don’t need to lower ourselves to that level. I’m moderating this to protect FTClover from an angry mob showing up on his door, and arming people with more information to track him by doesn’t help me at all. If you know something important, relevant, or related, PM me but [u]do not publish it[/u].
[/quote]

Hi Kevlar. I agree with you, and that was actually what I was trying to do, allay a genuine concern without revealing any more information. Ireland is a big place :)

However, in the interests of getting this resolved, I agree that Kevlar and FTClover and all those actually involved in terms of having paid monies should be given the space to work this out, and I believe that any further discussion should take place within a private framework facilitated by Kevlar.

I trust Kevlar to do whatever is best for all concerned, and I strongly recommend that everyone else do so too.

Stefan
[/quote]

I also agree.

Get this sorted out guys and move on.

Pitchforks and torches will get you nothing in life aside from more grief and mob mentality.

flcph

[quote name=“mhamilton79” post=“54850” timestamp=“1390605984”]
[quote] +1 for Kevlar, and I do agree with the protection of the site and admins. I say that Feathercoin forums should no longer let some one sell stuff like this on the forums, Posts like FTCLovers selling something like scryptcloud mining or anything like this should be removed right away. It’s to easy for people to come to these forums and post scams like this, and then brings drama to our forums.
[/quote]

Unless maybe a trusted member of the community volunteers to escrow the items on sale or something? +1
[/quote]

lets have trusted member volunteers as escrow because it would be sad to close the door to any new project

flcph

[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54885” timestamp=“1390636460”]
[quote author=Kevlar link=topic=7176.msg54880#msg54880 date=1390635250]
Nope, there’s no need for any of that.

I’m serious: [b]THE STREET JUSTICE MENTALITY ENDS NOW[/b] or you can all find someone else to moderate this. There will be no publishing of personal data from here on out no matter what who says. The forum hack where all this data was stolen and is now being sold is bad enough, we don’t need to lower ourselves to that level. I’m moderating this to protect FTClover from an angry mob showing up on his door, and arming people with more information to track him by doesn’t help me at all. If you know something important, relevant, or related, PM me but [u]do not publish it[/u].
[/quote]

Hi Kevlar. I agree with you, and that was actually what I was trying to do, allay a genuine concern without revealing any more information. Ireland is a big place :)

However, in the interests of getting this resolved, I agree that Kevlar and FTClover and all those actually involved in terms of having paid monies should be given the space to work this out, and I believe that any further discussion should take place within a private framework facilitated by Kevlar.

I trust Kevlar to do whatever is best for all concerned, and I strongly recommend that everyone else do so too.

Stefan
[/quote]

same for me +1

MegaMike

Hooray for sanity. Emotions were running high. Understandable, but seriously coloring the atmosphere to a darker shade then needed. I was contemplating my resignation, I’d rather lose my handful of BTC then. FTClover working on fixing this somehow means a lot more then me.

uncle_muddy

[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“54872” timestamp=“1390633682”]
First of all I want to assure you the best course for everyone involved is for everyone to just relax a little, and work this out calmly.