Scryptcloud owes you:
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Ugly story, hope people realize this has nothing to do with Feathercoin and could have happened anywhere.
P.S. Does that scammer have more rep than me? :P That system is useless then.
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[quote name=“JohnsonX” post=“55576” timestamp=“1390867307”]
Ugly story, hope people realize this has nothing to do with Feathercoin and could have happened anywhere.P.S. Does that scammer have more rep than me? :P That system is useless then.
[/quote]No, that’s what makes it so infuriating. He actually was a contributing member with lots of worthy questions and would participate in conversation.
It was a long play.
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Or he has multiple personalities that Rep himself.
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OK, who has phoned this solicitor, does he exist?
Shane, why are you on the forum at 9:00 in the morning and not at the Doctors or sorting out the money you owe everybody?
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[quote name=“wrapper” post=“55620” timestamp=“1390901894”]
OK, who has phoned this solicitor, does he exist?Shane, why are you on the forum at 9:00 in the morning and not at the Doctors or sorting out the money you owe everybody?
[/quote]Seems you are pretty pissed of wrapper. How much did he stole from you?
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[quote name=“HopeStillFlies” post=“55583” timestamp=“1390868379”]
[quote author=JohnsonX link=topic=7176.msg55576#msg55576 date=1390867307]
Ugly story, hope people realize this has nothing to do with Feathercoin and could have happened anywhere.P.S. Does that scammer have more rep than me? :P That system is useless then.
[/quote]No, that’s what makes it so infuriating. He actually was a contributing member with lots of worthy questions and would participate in conversation.
It was a long play.
[/quote]He had been begging for rep in his signature from the beginning.
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I am not pissed of, and am totally calm.
He of course stole nothing from me, I am a guilable fool, but not that stupid.
I believe he is a scam team. I think others on the site are multiple SCam personalities. I don’t care if everyone else thinks I’m wrong.
Whatever, I will answer every post he makes, and post on here every time he comes on the site. Sorry.
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[quote name=“wrapper” post=“55623” timestamp=“1390902986”]
I am not pissed of, and am totally calm.He of course stole nothing from me, I am a guilable fool, but not that stupid.
I believe he is a scam team. I think others on the site are multiple SCam personalities. I don’t care if everyone else thinks I’m wrong.
Whatever, I will answer every post he makes, and post on here every time he comes on the site. Sorry.
[/quote]Hey, no need to sorry. I actually like your responses ;)
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I organised feathercoin week, why would I direct everyone to my facebook if I was plotting to scam??
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Then what happened that changed you from a builder into… well… this demolisher? You’re not exactly promotion material anymore, quite the opposite. You’ve added to the level of distrust already surrounding cryptocurrency, not to mention you’ve robbed me personally of some interesting opportunities. Such a shame.
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Can we please stop the debates over what happened, they are going round and round and benefit no-one.
FTCLover’s actions have earned him the label of Scammer, regardless of what he may have done before which was positive.
The only reason this thread was left open was because it was a vehicle for discussion of resolution of the issue, no more justification or condemnation is now required.
Please use this thread only for communication on resolution of the issue, either by refund or legal means and do not respond to any provocations to a further discussion.
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I don’t wish to allow him to do the same again, sorry.
If he was genuine or sane he would not have posted again. Troll.
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“55639” timestamp=“1390910268”]
Can we please stop the debates over what happened, they are going round and round and benefit no-one.FTCLover’s actions have earned him the label of Scammer, regardless of what he may have done before which was positive.
The only reason this thread was left open was because it was a vehicle for discussion of resolution of the issue, no more justification or condemnation is now required.
Please use this thread only for communication on resolution of the issue, either by refund or legal means and do not respond to any provocations to a further discussion.
[/quote]strongly agree
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Hi Shane,
What is the latest situation with the refund? I have a Bank of Ireland and a permanent TSB account if paying direct helps vs a wallet payment.
Thanks a lot
Paul
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We should be hearing from Kevlar today i hope + i am meeting my solicitor tomorrow
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Okay great. Thank you.
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First of all let me apologize for not posting sooner. I’ve been extremely ill, and very stressed out. This entire process has really taken it’s toll on me… I can only imagine how the rest of you who did lose money are feeling.
I’ve been trying to work with Shane in order to recover your money. This has proven a fruitless task. He has admitted to having spent it all on personal things, of which a semi-accurate accounting has been made. Most of the value cannot be recovered due to the nature of these expenditures.
At first I was hoping to work with him to establish some hope of paying people back in a reasonable time frame, but as it turns out Shane has both an employment problem (he’s unemployed), and a lying problem. It has been revealed that basically everything he told you was a lie. Every post, every detail, a complete fabrication.
There was no GPU’s ordered. There was no motherboards, and no mismatched processors. He literally took your money, and spent it on himself as it came in.
What’s more is as we have continued to negotiate, his attitude has been the entire time that he cannot be held accountable. He’s sited articles about how Ireland doesn’t cover Bitcoins under their Depositors protection, confusing persons committing wire fraud (what he did) with banks and businesses going out of business, and is leaning on the ambiguous nature of crypto-currency as his excuse for not taking this more seriously.
And so I’ve taken it upon myself to ensure you, the people who he scammed and took money from, that this crime is not without recourse.
First and foremost, I’ve spoken to:
- A lawyer who specializes in criminal law
- A local California police detective
- An Irish police detective
- A special agent for the FBI in the cybercrimes division
And I’ve compiled a list of what will be required to prosecute Shane under international wire fraud and theft charges. They’ve assured me that, assuming I have my story right, this is a very serious crime for which Shane can be charged with both criminal and civil charges, and will likely spend time in jail for if convicted.
But in order to make that happen, a full accounting of the facts must demonstrate that Shane did knowingly commit fraud by doing ALL of the following:
(1) making a false statement of a material fact
(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue
(3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim
(4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement
(5) injury to the alleged victim as a resultSo that’s what I’ve done.
I’ve created a document which contains sufficient evidence to support all of the above claims, namely that he did:
(1) Say he was offering contracts for cloud mining for sale, including regular payouts, and launch and advertise a website to facilitate the sales, including a payment processor for accepting the money in an automated fashion
(2) Admit that he didn’t purchase any mining hardware, let alone the specified amounts claimed
(3) Make false updates regarding purchasing and acquiring hardware, promising start dates for when payouts will begin
(4) Intend for people to believe that he was going through with the hardware acquisition through numerous forum posts and website updates stating that the hardware had arrived and was being set up
(5) Take people’s money and not return it, causing not just loss of income, but loss of revenue as wellThe document contains:
- A summary of the facts
- All the personal information on Shane Buckley, including his address, phone number, recent photograph, family member names, ip addresses, and email address.
- A timeline of events, including screenshots of the various states of the websites, and forum posts he made
- A transcript of several chat logs where he admitted to having spent the money on debts and other personal items, and admitting that he can no longer issue refunds.
- A list of all the parties involved, the amounts they paid, the time and dates, the transaction IDs, and the payment processor IDs.
In the interest of [b]NOT ENCOURAGING STREET JUSTICE[/b] (I’m serious people. This is a legal matter, take it to the courts!) I will NOT be releasing this document except to the lawyers/solicitors of people who have been impacted by this. mhammilton has already sent me his solicitor information, and I will be forwarding the document to them. If you want your lawyer to recieve a copy, please PM me. If he then shares it with you, that’s your business, but I’m trying to keep this out of the hands of people who would just use it to enact revenge, and the best way I can think to do that is to only reveal it to law professionals. If you want to know what I know because you want to pursue legal action, get a lawyer. [b]I WILL NOT BE PARTY TO STREET JUSTICE.[/b]
The community itself has been invaluable in making this happen. To everyone who’s PM’ed me/Emailed me/Skyped me/tried to work this out, your help has been invaluable. I won’t be listing names here to protect the innocent, but you know who you are.
I, on the other hand, have literally worked myself ill on this one. Literally. The entire incident is terribly upsetting, and I’m ill at health as a result of the stress.
First of all, I feel horrible for the people who were taken in by this, and lost money as a result. We’re supposed to be a community who trusts each other, and a breach of that trust only hurts the trust we share as a whole. It’s a real shame that people would take advantage of this trust, utilizing our desire to get in on the ground floor of a large opportunity to take people’s money on the promise of something that should have been easy to accomplish, given the amount of money he received. This has literally set back the flow of progress, putting other entrepreneurs on pause while this all gets worked out, and giving cloud mining an air of untrustworthyness. We’re all worse off because of this, not just the people who were scammed.
As you know, I’ve devoted a lot of time to this community, helping it to grow (and sometimes to shrink), educating people, helping people, and working with people to develop common goals. That someone can come along and cause so much damage to that community while making a large personal profit leaves a bad taste in my mouth, the likes of which I’ve not managed to get rid of.
On the other hand, I’m also a human. I’m capable of making mistakes, and have been accused of poor judgement in the past, and when I put myself in the shoes of Shane, my heart sinks right down to the floor and stays there. Shane is obviously of above average intelligence, and someone who I thought was a valuable member of the community. When I’m faced with the prospect of what will happen to him next as a result of all of this, I literally weep real tears. It’s entirely possible that as a result of this little experiment of his, he has destroyed his life. He’s facing a very serious set of accusations, and I can foresee no outcome for him that has him moving on with his life in a normal fashion. International wire fraud is a very serious charge, and he’s as demonstrably guilty as any case I’ve ever seen, and the result of that is likely to be some serious fees on top of paying back what he already owes, and a good amount of jail time. How someone can be expected to pay back what they owe, on top of the fees, while in jail is a mystery… let alone finding a job once he gets out.
Do I think he deserves it? Yeah, unfortunately I do. He literally duped you out of your money through a very elaborate ruse, deceiving you every step of the way. He does deserve whatever sentence is imposed upon him by a judge. As a human being, would I ever wish to torture anyone for their mistakes to the degree that he is likely to be tortured? No. No I don’t.
Do I have a better solution? No. I wish I did. I tried to talk to him on multiple occasions, tried to figure out a way he could prevent this from going down, but he’s made it clear that he can’t get the money he spent back, and so as a result I see no option moving forward except to pursue this as a legal matter.
I would encourage you to speak to your lawyer/solicitor concerning your options before accepting any repayment from him. According to my sources, you may be entitled to your losses and damages in the form of lost revenue, and accepting any repayment from him may hurt your case in court. I know of one member who has already claimed to have accepted repayment in the form of a wire transfer, and another who is considering it. Again, I encourage you to talk to a solicitor before going through with any deal.
So… that’s that.
Or at least I’d like it to be.
I’d like to stop treating this as a public matter and start treating it as a civil one. Those who are involved, I suggest you organize yourself, but I ask, with no voice of authority to enforce it, that you don’t do it here in a public forum. PM each other. Everyone get on Skype and do a group chat. Email each other. Get organized and go after your money. I’ve tried to make it easy to do so, but it’s going to be on you to make it happen. Make one last post saying, “Hey, this is where we going to continue the conversation”, and let this thread be locked, and sink into the annuls of history, so that we as a community might not constantly be reminded of the absolute shit storm that this has caused.
And now, for my next trick, I’m going to be excusing myself for a few days. I have code ready to release for Link, from the suggested features your donations funded. I have 90% of Bitcoin Minus Bitcoin working. I have wrapper doing amazing work on eliminating ACP that I really want to be involved in.
It’s all going to have to wait, I’m afraid. I need a break after this. My body is sick, my soul is sick, and I’m not going to be of much good to anyone in my current condition.
I’ve had people offer donations, and while I love getting paid for my efforts as much as the next guy, I would ask that you instead consider donating to the people who lost money while believing in someone who they thought they could trust. In some cases, they need it more than I do.
I’ll be back once I’ve had some time to heal. I hope that I’ve made you all proud to be members of this community despite the unpleasantness. PM me if you need anything, I’ll check them regularly during my absence.
Good day.
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“55779” timestamp=“1390957547”]
Monumental post
[/quote]Wow. Just wow.
Ok, not only will we one day meet in Vegas, but the [i]first[/i] trip to the VIP room is on me.
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I, for one, have no problem with street justice. You know, the kind that involves said person walking around covered in something sticky and glitter.
I think it’s sad that we’ve bought into the propaganda that what anyone, who isn’t in a cubicle during the 9-5 period, wants is to harm people.
Anyway, that’s my story and Imma sticky to it.
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Wow. Your effort into this is really incredible Kevlar. I would have never gotten involved in something like this.
