Just feel like ranting (eBay)
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Sorry about this post, but I just need to blow off some steam.
I’m sure you’ve all heard about eBay buyer protection, and how almost anyone can open a case and eBay will allow them to return the item whether or not the item actually matched the description or not, ultimately screwing the seller from unhonest buyers.
Anyways, I’ve sold stuff on eBay before, perfectly working condition. I’ve had 0 feedback buyers buy my stuff, open a case saying it doesn’t work, eBay rules in their favor, I’m forced to pay a refund and lose out on shipping, and then get the item back and it works just fine. Last week, I bought a 5970 that was listed as used in conjunction with a primary card for crossfire, but the display wasn’t working and untested. Saying that it was used in crossfire, it was implied that it worked. I bought it, and none of 3 computers can even read the card, so he sold me a dud. I go and plead to eBay resolution center, and guess what? For once in their hell-ridden lives they ruled in the seller’s favor. What’s even nicer is the seller has 0 feedback and I bought his first item. So apparently, people who’ve built their reputation and gotten good feedback don’t merit shit in swaying their decision.
I’ve always hated eBay, now I don’t even want to partake in their scam business. I can’t wait to see our marketplace takeoff, and Feathercoin take off, and ultimately run eBay to hell where they belong. I’ve always wondered why another site hasn’t already been made which offers cheaper and better service than eBay… which isn’t that hard to do saying that eBay has barely any of either.
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Wow… just got an email saying the negative feedback I left the guy was removed. That’s just pathetic saying that when someone unjustly left me negative feedback all they did was take off the comment, they left the negative feedback there. eBay… one of a kind. -
Ouch. I have had similar experience with ebay. In fact the only good experiece I’ve had with ebay is when I used to do surveys online and would accrue pennies here and there, and I’d buy dinky little $2 things with free shipping lol.
But I gave it up as a bad joke a number of years ago, I had saved to buy a new video card (story of my life it seems) and saw a gt8800 for $280 or something. Checked the guys ratings, he wasn’t new and there were no obvious problems with what he did sell.
So I bought it, and he started telling me that he can’t ship it until I pay, and I said I can’t pay till he ships it, as Ebay was all over the place. The only thing I could do was give him a positive rating that would allow him to send it… I can’t remember how it worked, it was all a load of twaddle to me.
So anyway I end up getting the card in a plastic bag - not a static bag, a plain plastic bag - inside a cardboard box. And wouldn’t you know it, the thing was detected in windows but it was a corrupted screen. Ugh, I hoped it was just my system, or something I could fix, but upon checking it looked suspiciously like he had tried to mod the board somehow.
I email him back and his reply is “Not my fault your machine can’t handle it.” and that … lets just say this was before making certain threats would have terrorist officers at your door… Ebay didn’t reply to any of my complains, it looked for all intent and purpose that he’d successfully scammed me.
I thought sod it, I’ll send it back to him anyway… and I proceeded to pull every single thing off the board with pliers… lol… he was getting it back alright.
Before I did send anything, Ebay replied… :(
they had agreed that the the seller was in the wrong, and I should ship the item back for reimbursement. Oo
I cried a little inside… outside I was numb. a cross between furious anger and utter despair.
So ends the last and only time I ever used Ebay for anything other than dinky trinkets.
… I never did get a new video card. I ended up having to use on board vga for months until I finally got the 5850 that is the lawnmower in my case right now. lol
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That’s horrible, I would’ve been in denial for a few days if that ever happened to me. At least in the end they agreed to you, they seem to hate me on the other hand >:( I don’t remember the time where they didn’t have Paypal and you had to pay before they shipped it though. But hey, I guess in the end it’s good you ended up getting the 5850 instead of still having the gt8800 right? Unless of course you’d have traded it in for an AMD card by now.
I’m thinking once Feathercoin lifts off and has a great variety of sellers in the marketplace, and a well established intro/guide for those who want to start selling/converting sales into fiat, I’m probably going to spam eBay sellers to join here haha. Not spam persay, but in what eBay would probably assume, since I’d be messaging every single seller advertising them to sell here. I’d just make a new account/change IP’s all day long and I’d love it.
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:) It was by sheer accident of fate that I got an AMD card. Glad I did. I was more an nvidia fan before, but just decided to try something different. It has led me here and without it I’d probably have never started mining cryptos at all. Fate has driven a lot over the years :)
You know, with the Market here, and with the ease of crypto currency in it’s ability to transfer without the need for a thing like paypal, as long as trusted parties on both sides are a given, I cannot see why it would not impact the likes of ebay tremendously.
Or with Escrow, which I think Justabit is one here? well, you can’t go wrong. I could be just influenced because I’ve seen the forums grow and have seen what is coming up as a no holds barred strong future, and it might appear differently to people who don’t know or are new, but without doubt I see it moving forwards in leaps and bounds.
If all it takes is to let people on ebay know that there is an alternative - if they’re already that way inclined to adopt future technologies - I definitely see it as a good thing to spread the word.
I mean, as it is, the one place I know of that sells computer hardware for bitcoin, bitcoinstore, seems to indicate that it’s absolutely possible to have a thriving business based on a crypto currency. Wether or not they are hanging off an otherwise established company, is beside the point really. And a free market, I’ve not seen any. At least not developed by and backed with the support of such a strong user base.
Just need to work on the “WILL not ship internationally” part.
I’ve got just over 800ftc stored, and I have seen almost every single one of them coins come in, a day at a time… I really really don’t want to part with them, as I know the exchange rates will grow. But I’d have already spent them to buy hardware if only I could have gotten past that sort of hiccup. I feel it’s losing out a little from my point of view, as I’ll never have the hardware to get such an amount again, but everything I’m buying now goes towards feathercoin, so it pays itself back eventually.
Bring on the day when we pull the rug out from under ebay and paypal. And I get the feeling we’ve got the people, skills, determination and ability to do that.
:)
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Bring on the day when we pull the rug out from under ebay and paypal. And I get the feeling we’ve got the people, skills, determination and ability to do that.
[/quote]Amen to that, I’ve never liked either… they make too much money doing nothing. I mean, if 10,000 people sell $1000 worth in a day, they’ve already made $1.2 million between the two fees. Thing is, I’m sure the total trade value per day is several times what I just said.
I know how you feel though, I’d LOVE to buy more graphics card, but it’ll never amount to the amount of Feathercoin I have now no matter how much I get =\ On top of that I’d still have to have a new circuit installed to handle more cards. I wish there were block erupters for Feathercoin, I would so buy 25 or so of them lol.
As for the market, I have no doubt the growth it’ll experience, especially once we have security/anti-scam features implemented to make it a safer trading platform.