Feathercoin network up 3 % over 2 days- NETWORK ATTACK?
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[quote name=“wrapper0feather” post=“22023” timestamp=“1374164895”]
Hi Pyxis, you haven’t got any spare change for stopping your boredom, help finding the attack and my loss of coins (at least 4)??
[/quote]Bad news is good promotion ;) people will talk, out name gets out more.
So the way i look at it, we are buying advertising. ;) -
Pyxis, this is not good advertising.
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[quote name=“wrapper0feather” post=“22031” timestamp=“1374166209”]
This is not good advertising.
[/quote]There is no such thing.
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Some people see it as Feathercoin is worthy of being attacked or worth attacking. Many coins aren’t doing anything and therefore aren’t worth attacking.
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[quote name=“wrapper0feather” post=“22031” timestamp=“1374166209”]
This is not good advertising.
[/quote]Certainly good for upsetting miners. Bit of a viscous circle really. We need more miners to stop the attacks but those that stick around and mine loose coin so stop mining.
Exchanges loose out if they don’t have high enough confirms before deposit so they raise their confirms which annoys people because they have to wait for 500 confirms before they can trade.
Pool ops loose out because they feel they can payout on 10/20/50 confirms then get all the blocks orphaned so they raise them up again.
Long and short - Miners get stuffed. Hardly promotion. :(
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[quote name=“wrapper0feather” post=“22028” timestamp=“1374166102”]
Hey, was there a DDos against Litecoin just before the Feathercoin attack? and again at 12:30 and 1:30 - Looks like DDos against P2pool?Perhaps the DDos reduces pools to make it easier to confirm injects? Or make their solo mining more profitable? with the attack as a diversion.
[/quote]the purpose of ddos is to take down pools, all the miners on that pool that do not have set failover option in their mining software will then stop hashing.
That way the network hashrate goes down, and it requires less hash to get 51% of the total network.p2pool should be ddos resistant, but if to many attach to the same node it would be popular for the “bad people” to ddos attack that adress, since they will take down a larger piece of hashpower.
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just sent you 4ftc -
If it was good advertising the banks would be shouting how much money was defrauded from their cards, Tesco would glory in the horse meat content of their frozen foods and egg farmers would broadcast the level of salmonella in their chickens…
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We’re splitting hairs here and not moving any closer to resolution.
- Attacking hurts us with confidence in the coin and our hard working miners lose out and security is questioned (1 side)
- Attacks prove that the coin is worth attacking right before the Oxford event and UNOCS announcement (the other side)
Hopefully we’ll be able to get some timelines on the check pointing system fairly quickly. Our time would be better spent testing code on possible future solutions.
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[quote name=“Bushstar” post=“22029” timestamp=“1374166123”]
They are at it again! I wonder what their intention is this time?The last known attack did try to roll back some transactions on BTC-e. However they also made the difficulty go down when it was supposed to go up. They could be trying to do that again which the miners never had a problem with ;)
So if they manage to over write the first block in the next difficulty with a block with an earlier time then this will throw off the next difficulty calculation. When the network checks 504 blocks back the first block will appear older than it should. I’m wondering if they are going to try something on in time for the night at the pub.
I am looking forward to Advanced Checkpointing where we can subscribe to a Trusted feed and no longer worry about people over writing blocks.
[/quote]cant wait for the advanced checkpointing!
any posibility to do this in a p2peer fashin with checksum or will this just make it 51% problematic again? -
[quote name=“Justabitoftime” post=“22038” timestamp=“1374166839”]
We’re splitting hairs here and not moving any closer to resolution.- Attacking hurts us with confidence in the coin and our hard working miners lose out and security is questioned (1 side)
- Attacks prove that the coin is worth attacking right before the Oxford event and UNOCS announcement (the other side)
Hopefully we’ll be able to get some timelines on the check pointing system fairly quickly. Our time would be better spent testing code on possible future solutions.
[/quote]True, but I tell you its the small end of the egg you break first. ;D
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I asked how we could stop the attack?
If we can’t get more network, don’t we need emergency checkpoints, untill you can do the auto ones. Even if it means manually checking the blocks, at this early stage, can’t we distribute a new client and orphan all the injects? pleeeeese!!!
The software working is more important than the pub. and (Pyxis) better publicity to stop and regress an attack than it be an ongoing sore.
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Someone find me this guy’s address and I’ll go knee cap him for everyone…
[img]http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/10/20/129005638702804425.jpg[/img] -
I have all the faith in FTC to recover from this. If the PR is done right and a solution is found then it can be spun in a very positive light, but first the solution must be implemented.
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[quote name=“Jmart” post=“22050” timestamp=“1374171534”]
I have all the faith in FTC to recover from this. If the PR is done right and a solution is found then it can be spun in a very positive light, but first the solution must be implemented.
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Stopping the any similar attack is massive news. Fixing /stopping this one is the very best thing that I’ve seen on Feathercoin.
1 million kudo’s to Bushstar, thankyouthankyouthankyou .
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[quote name=“jeremiel” post=“22049” timestamp=“1374170088”]
Someone find me this guy’s address and I’ll go knee cap him for everyone…
[/quote]Or instead of violence, counter their actions with their own code of ethics. DDOS 'em. -
[quote name=“d2” post=“22071” timestamp=“1374174622”]
I just wanted to point out that flound was kind enough to manually swing multipool to FTC giving us an extra 400mh/s to combat these attacks. Thanks flound!
[/quote]You go flound. Thanks
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[quote name=“jeremiel” post=“22076” timestamp=“1374174979”]
[quote author=d2 link=topic=2846.msg22071#msg22071 date=1374174622]
I just wanted to point out that flound was kind enough to manually swing multipool to FTC giving us an extra 400mh/s to combat these attacks. Thanks flound!
[/quote]You go flound. Thanks
[/quote]I second that :D
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They can only act now, in the crypto-currency start up / gpu phase. Bitcoin and Litecoin have surpassed the hash rate level a single entity might amass to overpower the network.
I like the idea of auto checkpoints, done correctly, it will make our network secure.
