\[BOUNTY 15BTC\] Mining FTC blocks 1BTC@32880,32900,32920,32940,32960 10BTC@33,000
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[quote name=“steganos” post=“5815” timestamp=“1369331676”]
There are two results in the blockchain when searching for block 33000:
http://explorer.feathercoin.com/search?q=33000
How can you tell which one is valid?
The block from wemineftc.com has an address of 1MXX4zZuFvWXwJc3ZmFyhT1AjRYaN9wAbd.
The other block has an address of 6p[b][color=red]FeathercoinSucks[/color][/b]CBTuauhTGi8cdDCV
It seems a bit suspicious that this would be the winning address.
The wemineftc.com block has an earlier timestamp.
[/quote]Smacks of a 51% attack no? I mean what are the odds? Orphans are so rare on wemineftc.
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wemineftc.com gets the prize.
It looks like someone with a fair bit of hash power came on to orphan block 33,000 and to squeeze on their block instead. What a neat trick :)
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[quote name=“atwoodb95” post=“5818” timestamp=“1369331934”]
[quote author=steganos link=topic=583.msg5815#msg5815 date=1369331676]
[quote author=Bushstar link=topic=583.msg5811#msg5811 date=1369331379]
Block 33,000 was orphaned on wemineltc.com :(That was a cruel block for an orphan to happen on. Now I need to find the miner, if I cannot then we can still send the bounty to the block generation address. I’ve had to do that already for one of the bounties. Some miners are not paying attention and were probably a bit surprised by a random 800FTC coming in :)
If you find the miner let me know. The client allows someone to verify that they own an address, in this case the address generated when the block was mined.
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Why would the words feathercoinsucks be in the physical ftc address? Seams a little fishy to me.There are two results in the blockchain when searching for block 33000:
http://explorer.feathercoin.com/search?q=33000
How can you tell which one is valid?
The block from wemineftc.com has an address of 1MXX4zZuFvWXwJc3ZmFyhT1AjRYaN9wAbd.
The other block has an address of 6p[b][color=red]FeathercoinSucks[/color][/b]CBTuauhTGi8cdDCV
It seems a bit suspicious that this would be the winning address.
The wemineftc.com block has an earlier timestamp.
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Why would the word feathercoinsucks be in the actualy ftc address? Seams a bit fishy to me.
[/quote]You can get customized addresses.
If you look at the transaction history for that address, you will see that this is the only transaction for that address:
http://explorer.feathercoin.com/address/6pFeathercoinSucksCBTuauhTGi8cdDCV
So somebody happened to solo mine block 33000 using an address that doesn’t have any other transactions on it, and an address with a suspicious string in it, and there was a competing hash submitted for that block that ended up being orphaned… That seems extremely fishy to me.
I hope somebody will do a little more digging before the award is handed out.
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[quote name=“atwoodb95” post=“5818” timestamp=“1369331934”]
[quote author=steganos link=topic=583.msg5815#msg5815 date=1369331676]
[quote author=Bushstar link=topic=583.msg5811#msg5811 date=1369331379]
Block 33,000 was orphaned on wemineltc.com :(That was a cruel block for an orphan to happen on. Now I need to find the miner, if I cannot then we can still send the bounty to the block generation address. I’ve had to do that already for one of the bounties. Some miners are not paying attention and were probably a bit surprised by a random 800FTC coming in :)
If you find the miner let me know. The client allows someone to verify that they own an address, in this case the address generated when the block was mined.
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Why would the words feathercoinsucks be in the physical ftc address? Seams a little fishy to me.There are two results in the blockchain when searching for block 33000:
http://explorer.feathercoin.com/search?q=33000
How can you tell which one is valid?
The block from wemineftc.com has an address of 1MXX4zZuFvWXwJc3ZmFyhT1AjRYaN9wAbd.
The other block has an address of 6p[b][color=red]FeathercoinSucks[/color][/b]CBTuauhTGi8cdDCV
It seems a bit suspicious that this would be the winning address.
The wemineftc.com block has an earlier timestamp.
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Why would the word feathercoinsucks be in the actualy ftc address? Seams a bit fishy to me.
[/quote]You can mine your own address, check out [url=http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=489.0]http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=489.0[/url] - Although I bet that address took some mining power to produce, jeese ::) ::) ::) not surprised they found the block :D
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[quote name=“Bushstar” post=“5827” timestamp=“1369332363”]
wemineftc.com gets the prize.It looks like someone with a fair bit of hash power came on to orphan block 33,000 and to squeeze on their block instead. What a neat trick :)
[/quote]Thank you. I’m wondering how that could happen though.
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i would personaly be pissed if i look into the description of that Bounty and decided to mine Ftc, to have a Chance of 5BTC
and than recognice, that the pool made a decision to share that Bounty. In my opinion they don´t have the right to do that, it´s only up to Marduke.
As i like the community i would share it, so don´t get me wrong. But i guess in this case it´s the wrong to make things over someones head.
Cause this Bounty was created to attract singel miners, to come back to Ftc. What would you think if you read the description of a game, winning Car, and than you realize, you only get a couple of wheels, because the car manufactor decide this over the game oparator ?Anyway Greets to Marduk. ;D
Edit: as the Block gets Orphand, it still matters. If you you spoke out a personal Bounty, you should stay with it or clearify this in the description.
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the chain has forked and newest get it, the weirdest part is the confirmation was done by an address that seems to have done some weird strike(possibly a lot more then 51%) in the past as it got a couple of straight 32901-32918 32960-32966. seems to be weird in my view
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[quote name=“groll” post=“5832” timestamp=“1369332506”]
the chain has forked and newest get it, the weirdest part is the confirmation was done by an address that seems to have done some weird strike(possibly a lot more then 51%) in the past as it got a couple of straight 32901-32918 32960-32966. seems to be weird in my view
[/quote]That is weird. Nice find.
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[quote name=“Bushstar” post=“5827” timestamp=“1369332363”]
wemineftc.com gets the prize.It looks like someone with a fair bit of hash power came on to orphan block 33,000 and to squeeze on their block instead. What a neat trick :)
[/quote]Definitely seems suspicious, but I would advise we you wait before handing out the bounty. There is a chance, however small, that this may be just a bizarre coincidence.
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[quote name=“Shym” post=“5831” timestamp=“1369332489”]
i would personaly be pissed if i look into the description of that Bounty and decided to mine Ftc, to have a Chance of 5BTC
and than recognice, that the pool made a decision to share that Bounty. In my opinion they don´t have the right to do that, it´s only up to Marduke.
As i like the community i would share it, so don´t get me wrong. But i guess in this case it´s the wrong to make things over someones head.
Cause this Bounty was created to attract singel miners, to come back to Ftc. What would you think if you read the description of a game, winning Car, and than you realize, you only get a couple of wheels, because the car manufactor decide this over the game oparator ?Anyway Greets to Marduk. ;D
Edit: as the Block gets Orphand, it still matters. If you you spoke out a personal Bounty, you should stay with it or clearify this in the description.
[/quote]Miners join pools because they know they have a better chance of profiting, the pools make the rules & the fees, if miners don’t like them, they leave, had he solo mined he more than likely would not of found it, in fact had he solo mined, I might of found it :D
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[quote name=“steganos” post=“5830” timestamp=“1369332462”]
[quote author=Bushstar link=topic=583.msg5827#msg5827 date=1369332363]
wemineftc.com gets the prize.It looks like someone with a fair bit of hash power came on to orphan block 33,000 and to squeeze on their block instead. What a neat trick :)
[/quote]Thank you. I’m wondering how that could happen though.
[/quote]Someone would need to come on with 51% of total hashing power to invalidate other block and force transactions in that block to start again. This would explain why the difficulty did not go down as much as expected. They must have used a phenomenal amount of hash power. No doubt an old GPU Bitcoin miner who does not take kindly to alts :)
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From same address as the 33001 block, making the 33000 first block orphan
http://explorer.feathercoin.com/t/3j18QghX3Bis also pretty weird, not sure if it’s just the display or we have a bigger problem!!
i will analyse this transaction block tonight, now at work, need to back working -
[quote name=“UKMark” post=“5836” timestamp=“1369333168”]
[quote author=Shym link=topic=583.msg5831#msg5831 date=1369332489]i would personaly be pissed if i look into the description of that Bounty and decided to mine Ftc, to have a Chance of 5BTC
and than recognice, that the pool made a decision to share that Bounty. In my opinion they don´t have the right to do that, it´s only up to Marduke.
As i like the community i would share it, so don´t get me wrong. But i guess in this case it´s the wrong to make things over someones head.
Cause this Bounty was created to attract singel miners, to come back to Ftc. What would you think if you read the description of a game, winning Car, and than you realize, you only get a couple of wheels, because the car manufactor decide this over the game oparator ?Anyway Greets to Marduk. ;D
Edit: as the Block gets Orphand, it still matters. If you you spoke out a personal Bounty, you should stay with it or clearify this in the description.
[/quote]Miners join pools because they know they have a better chance of profiting, the pools make the rules & the fees, if miners don’t like them, they leave, had he solo mined he more than likely would not of found it, in fact had he solo mined, I might of found it :D
[/quote]Ofcause i understand that, i mining on a pool, too. And for that reason you descript. But the bounty is not called out for the pool, but for a single Person. Thats all i say. and if that Person, wants that bounty alone, in my opinion it´s his right, otherwise you don´t Need rules.
So again pls don´t get me wrong. -
[quote name=“Bushstar” post=“5839” timestamp=“1369333376”]
[quote author=steganos link=topic=583.msg5830#msg5830 date=1369332462]
[quote author=Bushstar link=topic=583.msg5827#msg5827 date=1369332363]
wemineftc.com gets the prize.It looks like someone with a fair bit of hash power came on to orphan block 33,000 and to squeeze on their block instead. What a neat trick :)
[/quote]Thank you. I’m wondering how that could happen though.
[/quote]Someone would need to come on with 51% of total hashing power to invalidate other block and force transactions in that block to start again. This would explain why the difficulty did not go down as much as expected. They must have used a phenomenal amount of hash power. No doubt an old GPU Bitcoin miner who does not take kindly to alts :)
[/quote]phenomenal amount of hash power? that was my Samsung S3@4khash! boom! :P
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[quote name=“Bushstar” post=“5839” timestamp=“1369333376”]
[quote author=steganos link=topic=583.msg5830#msg5830 date=1369332462]
[quote author=Bushstar link=topic=583.msg5827#msg5827 date=1369332363]
wemineftc.com gets the prize.It looks like someone with a fair bit of hash power came on to orphan block 33,000 and to squeeze on their block instead. What a neat trick :)
[/quote]Thank you. I’m wondering how that could happen though.
[/quote]Someone would need to come on with 51% of total hashing power to invalidate other block and force transactions in that block to start again. This would explain why the difficulty did not go down as much as expected. They must have used a phenomenal amount of hash power. No doubt an old GPU Bitcoin miner who does not take kindly to alts :)
[/quote]Is the rest the FTC blockchain safe?
Could they have just hacked the blockchain explorer?
I hope you dont reward those smart*****…
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[quote name=“Shym” post=“5843” timestamp=“1369333703”]
[quote author=Bushstar link=topic=583.msg5839#msg5839 date=1369333376]
[quote author=steganos link=topic=583.msg5830#msg5830 date=1369332462]
[quote author=Bushstar link=topic=583.msg5827#msg5827 date=1369332363]
wemineftc.com gets the prize.It looks like someone with a fair bit of hash power came on to orphan block 33,000 and to squeeze on their block instead. What a neat trick :)
[/quote]Thank you. I’m wondering how that could happen though.
[/quote]Someone would need to come on with 51% of total hashing power to invalidate other block and force transactions in that block to start again. This would explain why the difficulty did not go down as much as expected. They must have used a phenomenal amount of hash power. No doubt an old GPU Bitcoin miner who does not take kindly to alts :)
[/quote]phenomenal amount of hash power? that was my Samsung S3@4khash! boom! :P
[/quote]Lol :D
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Edit: removed having a really bad mouse day :(
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[quote name=“Bushstar” post=“5827” timestamp=“1369332363”]
Someone would need to come on with 51% of total hashing power to invalidate other block and force transactions in that block to start again. This would explain why the difficulty did not go down as much as expected. They must have used a phenomenal amount of hash power. No doubt an old GPU Bitcoin miner who does not take kindly to alts :)
[/quote]Yeah bush, like I said before that address alone would need some power to hash - it’s 16 digits :o, nearly half a full address, makes you wonder how long before the 33/34 key length will be too weak! :o
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Frankly, if I had that much hashpower to waste and was an FTC hater, I could have come with much better than FTCsucks.
Almost tempted to announce on the trollbox that FTC blockchain has been comprised. Could do with a price crash to stock up on a few more FTCs.
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[quote name=“UKMark” post=“5850” timestamp=“1369334295”]
Yeah bush, like I said before that address alone would need some power to hash - it’s 16 digits :o, nearly half a full address, makes you wonder how long before the 33/34 key length will be too weak! :o
[/quote]Hash power to generate longer addresses get exponentially harder. I think out sun would burn out before they generated a whole address on current hardware :)
Bitcoin based addresses are safe for a while yet.