Scrypt Cloud Has Been LAUNCHED!!!!
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54244” timestamp=“1390473871”]
It is not going to be a case of forbidding the spread of information, but a case of doing what is right for the Community, and we need to be careful to not post anything which could get Admins sued or the forum taken down through legal means, this would harm the community much more. That is why I asked mhamilton to let us discuss it first. Please bear with us.
[/quote]Here here! Thats the last thing we need! There was a post from a UK based solicitor not so long back, might be work giving him a tap up for a little free advice? I have run a forum in the past where a couple of guys decided to fall out and one of the decided to sue the other for slander and defamation of character! ended up costing me a few £ 100 in legal advice for them to get on with it!!
So be very careful guys, I know it looks like there has been wrong doing here, but the facts must be straight before there is any public slaying of the dragon or we will all be in for the high jump.
UM
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[quote name=“vizay” post=“54245” timestamp=“1390474081”]
[quote author=spynappels link=topic=6481.msg54244#msg54244 date=1390473871]
[quote author=vizay link=topic=6481.msg54242#msg54242 date=1390473471]I can totally buy that they don’t want to hang someone out with name and address, that’s understandable. But if they forbid you to post the info you have on your hands in general, I’ll seriously consider ditching this place permanently since that would be a clear sign of the mods just wanting control and not what’s best for the community.
i.e. freedom when they see fit, and not freedom for everyone at all times (which kind of is a basic philosophy within crypto in general).
Mods, do the right thing here…
[/quote]It is not going to be a case of forbidding the spread of information, but a case of doing what is right for the Community, and we need to be careful to not post anything which could get Admins sued or the forum taken down through legal means, this would harm the community much more. That is why I asked mhamilton to let us discuss it first. Please bear with us.
[/quote]Check! Sounds like you’re backing your choice with the right reasons then (got a bit worried, started to sound a bit sovietish around here) :) Shouldn’t be a problem to expose the background behind all of this without exposing the person in public. If it’s truly a scam we have on our hands here the only right thing to do with his personal information is sending it to the local police and taking it from there.
[/quote]i think local police should be the right start … no need anymore ftclover is back on line great
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[quote name=“flcph” post=“54247” timestamp=“1390474295”]
i think local police should be the right start …
[/quote]The last thing the community need is a pitchfork & torches situation where people walk through fire just to beat the living shit out of a supposed scammer. THAT will indeed just hurt the community in the long run. So yeah, get the police involved if you suspect a crime here :)
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i intended to go down this route:
step one -
locate Shanestep two -
Attempt recovery of monies owedStep three -
report the scam to police if recovery unsuccessful. You have to remember though crypto coins in the eyes of the law are not money, its like reporting a stolen wow account to the police - not sure if they will even take it very seriously or do anything at all. the best route in my opinion is to privately recover the monies owed. -
…in a manner which does not break the law or imply breaking the law.
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54254” timestamp=“1390475664”]
…in a manner which does not break the law or imply breaking the law.
[/quote]Of course - there are many ways to recover money from someone without breaking the law
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Without any further evidence it’s kinda hard to really get a good judgement on the situation. For all I care Shane is having the shivers due to issues with the processors and the wifi. The lack of communication is bad though.
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Seems the Whois info was updated on the 22nd 10am this maybe to cover tracks or remove some info. There is a name and address present which maybe of use if your local and may have got burnt.
Yes worth noting to police, but I’m afraid they will just pass you to action fraud who will log the complain and issue you a crime number this is where it stops. I had a customer of mine scam around 3k on stolen card info it didn’t progress and further than the issue of a crime number.
Guess we need to learn from mistakes and be wary of sending funds and hoping for the best, as said in above post it’s soo easy to make a couple of grand in very little time with very little effort. This happened with a litecoin contract website only a week or so before this was posted!
We needs to treat coins with more care and as cash, would you give someone £1000 cash down the pub who you just met who promised to give you something in return next week with no contact information…
I still maybe wrong and hope he does the right thing, with people getting hot under the collar if any local customers can pop over to meet in person it may prompt him to refund instead of run. I guarantee his reading all of this each day, time will tell.
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My home address:
7 Drynam Rise,
Kinsealy,
Co. Dublin
IrelandNow. I took down the site because there is now point in having it up and I was very angry with myself for such a failure of a project! I am issuing refunds from tomorrow, and I can’t answer a million messages on my own, I’m only one man!
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well so welcome back on line
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Thanks for posting, communication is key especially when things go wrong, this should put people’s mind at rest.
Hope all goes well.
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54261” timestamp=“1390477015”]
My home address:7 Drynam Rise,
Kinsealy,
Co. Dublin
IrelandNow. I took down the site because there is now point in having it up and I was very angry with myself for such a failure of a project! I am issuing refunds from tomorrow, and I can’t answer a million messages on my own, I’m only one man!
[/quote]Ok lets see if refunds show up tomorrow…
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54261” timestamp=“1390477015”]
My home address:7 Drynam Rise,
Kinsealy,
Co. Dublin
IrelandNow. I took down the site because there is now point in having it up and I was very angry with myself for such a failure of a project! I am issuing refunds from tomorrow, and I can’t answer a million messages on my own, I’m only one man!
[/quote]welcome back on line nice to hear from you again
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I am so sorry for FTCLover , he is a nice , honest person , I feel bad for things not going as planned !
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[quote]Now. I took down the site because there is now point in having it up and I was very angry with myself for such a failure of a project! I am issuing refunds from tomorrow, and I can’t answer a million messages on my own, I’m only one man!
[/quote]Lots of people offering to help here. Take them up on it!
Offer refunds to those who want them, but get some pictures up and an action plan for those who want to stay in.
To fall at the last hurdle will make you more annoyed in the long run.
Surely CPUs and connection issues can be sorted?
You’ve probably raised a fair amount of concern by taking the site offline and being absent over the last 24 hours. Why not talk it out like you did with the planning? The community is good for that kinda stuff.
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[quote name=“scruffters” post=“54277” timestamp=“1390478291”]
[quote]Now. I took down the site because there is now point in having it up and I was very angry with myself for such a failure of a project! I am issuing refunds from tomorrow, and I can’t answer a million messages on my own, I’m only one man!
[/quote]Lots of people offering to help here. Take them up on it!
Offer refunds to those who want them, but get some pictures up and an action plan for those who want to stay in.
To fall at the last hurdle will make you more annoyed in the long run.
Surely CPUs and connection issues can be sorted?
You’ve probably raised a fair amount of concern by taking the site offline and being absent over the last 24 hours. Why not talk it out like you did with the planning? The community is good for that kinda stuff.
[/quote]if some members of this community could chaperon the project and help solve technical problem, and that FTClover provide evidence of the hardware.
i would keep my contract running
thanks
freddetail of my contract
Thank you for your recent purchase at scryptcloud.com, you will find your purchase details below.
Contract: 1Mh/s 1 Month Feathercoin Mining Contract
Payment: 408.08056100 FTC via coinpayments.net received.
Payment Wallet Address: 6zPyuXPPXv5e1WMHMWo3xjW7d48Ucv7zbc
We have received all required funds for your payment of 408.08056100 FTC to Scryptcloud and your payment is now Complete.
The transaction ID of this payment is: 352d39992c71e553e185b308683520107750e3bc30b977155b5fde284e71a353 -
FTClover, as people have said, the lack of succes (at this moment) is not nearly as much of an issue as the lack of communication. Of course you’re angry and disappointed and who knows what else. I hope you got some sleep at least. I’ve been in your shoes quite a lot, with nothing but crap on my hands and angry people demanding solutions, and learned one thing: talk, frequently. Honestly, it helps both parties in keeping a sane attitude.
Did you consider the help offered here? Wish I could help, I can get this thing up and running, but it’s a heck of drive to get over there ;)
Otherwise, yeah, refund. Disappointing though to see the only decent scrypt mining service in existence (well, almost then) go down like this. But refund means you’ll have this huge pile of hardware that you can’t return. Don’t know about you, but I cannot afford such a load of hardware.
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Not to sure where the failure has been when reading through this thread.
I see there was an mockup regarding wrong cpu and that wifi didn’t work well.A couple of ideas:
*Order new CPUs (i know its harsh but cpus are dirty cheap these days and should not take more than a day to deliver in the UK).
*Regarding WIFI, have you considered Lan over Power solution? i use this in my rig room without any issues. this however needs to be tested in regards to the hotspot and the outlet
being on the same power grid or close enough.
*Have you checked what kind of power you have at your dispersal in that storage facility?, you would need alot to power those rigs. I use about 40 Amp for my 23Cards…Its a shame things so far haven’t worked out.
But if you need any help/advice please feel free to give me a shout on Skype@fuzzywolf84, I’ve tried almost everything and know what works and what doesn’t ;D -
I have the feeling FTClover just panicked. Probably he has put all his money in this business and now he realises that there are some unforeseen issues. But I still don’t get why put down the website. Take another 2-4 weeks to solve your problems and inform your customers about the problems. Customers who don’t want to wait that long could have sold their contracts on the website, right?