Very war - much debt $ - so fiat - such fractional reserve - wow
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What’s a “state”?
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“48540” timestamp=“1388447823”]
What’s a “state”?
[/quote]Definition of state (n) [ stayt ]
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[*]mostly autonomous region of federal country: an area forming part of a federal country such as the United States or Australia with its own government and legislature and control over most of its own internal affairs
[*]country: a country or nation with its own sovereign independent government
[*]government: a country’s government and those government-controlled institutions that are responsible for its internal administration and its relationships with other countries
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Definition of statism (n) statÂ*ism [ stáy tìzzÉ™m ]
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[*]centralized political control: the theory, or its practice, that economic and political power should be controlled by a central government leaving regional government and the individual with relatively little say in political matters[/list]
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So it’s where someone assumes control over what goes on within some arbitrary geographic border and then they try and regulate the way people contract with each other. And the aim of the game is to stay in power for the longest period of time?
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“48553” timestamp=“1388449607”]
So it’s where someone assumes control over what goes on within some arbitrary geographic border and then they try and regulate the way people contract with each other. And the aim of the game is to stay in power for the longest period of time?
[/quote]seems legit
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[quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“48555” timestamp=“1388450165”]
[quote author=chrisj link=topic=6489.msg48553#msg48553 date=1388449607]
So it’s where someone assumes control over what goes on within some arbitrary geographic border and then they try and regulate the way people contract with each other. And the aim of the game is to stay in power for the longest period of time?
[/quote]seems legit
[/quote]Once you have persuaded enough people to occupy your land and got them to reproduce you still need a way of extracting wealth from them. Off the top of my head I would suggest stealing their time due to the irreversibility it. If only there was a way we could mine people’s time.
Hey how about you make some paper and tell everyone is has value. Put in some laws with the threat of violence to make them work for it and then just keep printing it and give it to your mates so that nobody can work out the true price of their labour?
Wait, what if they work out that their time is their wealth? I know give them TV and gambling and stuff, let them work 14 hours a day and spend the rest of it like zombies. That will make them forget their lives have any meaning.
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It’s funny because just last night I started designing a framework for doing fractional reserve banking with crypto-currencies as a key component in things like the Twitter Tip Bot, and other projects which are quickly looking more accessible and exciting. Wow! So Meta!
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“48558” timestamp=“1388451189”]
Once you have persuaded enough people to occupy your land and got them to reproduce you still need a way of extracting wealth from them. Off the top of my head I would suggest stealing their time due to the irreversibility it. If only there was a way we could mine people’s time.Hey how about you make some paper and tell everyone is has value. Put in some laws with the threat of violence to make them work for it and then just keep printing it and give it to your mates so that nobody can work out the true price of their labour?
Wait, what if they work out that their time is their wealth? I know give them TV and gambling and stuff, let them work 14 hours a day and spend the rest of it like zombies. That will make them forget their lives have any meaning.
[/quote]Careful now, you’re beginning to sound like Mike Maloney. ;)
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[quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“48562” timestamp=“1388451415”]
[quote author=chrisj link=topic=6489.msg48558#msg48558 date=1388451189]
Once you have persuaded enough people to occupy your land and got them to reproduce you still need a way of extracting wealth from them. Off the top of my head I would suggest stealing their time due to the irreversibility it. If only there was a way we could mine people’s time.Hey how about you make some paper and tell everyone is has value. Put in some laws with the threat of violence to make them work for it and then just keep printing it and give it to your mates so that nobody can work out the true price of their labour?
Wait, what if they work out that their time is their wealth? I know give them TV and gambling and stuff, let them work 14 hours a day and spend the rest of it like zombies. That will make them forget their lives have any meaning.
[/quote]Careful now, you’re beginning to sound like Mike Maloney. ;)
[/quote]The trouble is what happens when that entertainment starts merging with information and people begin learning stuff?
Also I don’t know what you would do if people who were smarter than the rulers (and who had read Plato) started running for Government. You would have to impose regulations on running for government so that only people who shared your beliefs would get elected but still giving the sheeple the illusion of choice.
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“48570” timestamp=“1388452278”]
The trouble is what happens when that entertainment starts merging with information and people begin learning stuff?Also I don’t know what you would do if people who were smarter than the rulers (and who had read Plato) started running for Government. You would have to impose regulations on running for government so that only people who shared your beliefs would get elected but still giving the sheeple the illusion of choice.
[/quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk#]The Jones Plantation[/url]
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Before we get out of line here, never forget …
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[quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“48571” timestamp=“1388452565”]
[quote author=chrisj link=topic=6489.msg48570#msg48570 date=1388452278]
The trouble is what happens when that entertainment starts merging with information and people begin learning stuff?Also I don’t know what you would do if people who were smarter than the rulers (and who had read Plato) started running for Government. You would have to impose regulations on running for government so that only people who shared your beliefs would get elected but still giving the sheeple the illusion of choice.
[/quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk#]The Jones Plantation[/url]
[/quote]That’s a good video.
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“48576” timestamp=“1388454343”]
That’s a good video.
[/quote]Agreed. You may like this one from today …
[url=http://youtu.be/8_TpT41F96Q]http://youtu.be/8_TpT41F96Q[/url]
[i]“Life is not a football game.”[/i] -
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[quote author=chrisj link=topic=6489.msg48576#msg48576 date=1388454343]
That’s a good video.
[/quote]Agreed. You may like this one from today …
[url=http://youtu.be/8_TpT41F96Q]http://youtu.be/8_TpT41F96Q[/url]
[i]“Life is not a football game.”[/i]
[/quote]That’s a very good video.
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“Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labour in FREEDOM”
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By the way, the guy in the second video has the sickest Christmas tree I have ever seen. Just an observation. :o
Message, what was his message again, oh yeh the book.
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wow, @feathercoin is losing followers for tweeting that image. :-\
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[quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“48634” timestamp=“1388481185”]
wow, @feathercoin is losing followers for tweeting that image. :-\
[/quote]I think we do not really need such followers with shallow knowledge…
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[quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“48634” timestamp=“1388481185”]
wow, @feathercoin is losing followers for tweeting that image. :-\
[/quote]You don’t ‘lose’ followers on Twitter, you just get a more refined self selected audience over time.