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I was rather skeptical of this and I didn’t sent any payments to him until he have delivered the first batch to the buyers.
Lucky me. ??? but I hope you guys can recover what you lost.
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That’s so sad. Not just because I lost 0.55 btc also because I thought he was really reliable.
Thank you mhamilton, you have received a pm.
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[quote name=“svennand” post=“54654” timestamp=“1390583061”]
But ill gladly assist in any way. Maybe i can talk to KNCminer (swedish firm so i “speak” the correct language)
[/quote]Sending you a PM
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[quote name=“mhamilton79” post=“54662” timestamp=“1390584076”]
[quote author=svennand link=topic=7170.msg54654#msg54654 date=1390583061]
But ill gladly assist in any way. Maybe i can talk to KNCminer (swedish firm so i “speak” the correct language)
[/quote]Sending you a PM
[/quote]lol i was quicker:)
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I feel like an idiot for offering this guy my help with his build, and ashamed that he is Irish !!!
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i expect with KNC we will just simply find out that he never actually paid for a miner.
If anyone has received any emails directly from him can they please PM me the header contents of those emails? we might be able to get an ISP IP address or some more information from there depending on which smtp server he was using
Thank you
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PM Sent
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[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“54668” timestamp=“1390585479”]
[quote author=futureproof link=topic=7170.msg54664#msg54664 date=1390584249]
I feel like an idiot for offering this guy my help with his build, and ashamed that he is Irish !!!
We’re not all like that.
[/quote]That’s the thing though…do we really know for sure that he is Irish? I mean couldn’t he have used a VPN in Ireland and a fake address/identity?
[/quote]Yes. It’s very possible. And should be likely unless he really didn’t think it through.
So that information would hinge on what he felt compelled to share with mhamilton79. If it had to do with domain transfer or something of the like it may not be correct, either. We’ll wait it out to see what spynappels or any other immediately involved admin directs in order to verify it the info is good or not.
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[quote name=“iawgoM” post=“54637” timestamp=“1390580157”]
Well…well…I don’t know what to say…I was afraid this might happen. Also, since there are (almost) no countries in the world who have clearly defined cryptocurrency, it might be difficult to prosecute this legally, but don’t give up on this guys! There must be a way…
[/quote]you smelled a rat, and I guess were right.
If he was in my area I pay him a visit for you guys. Lets not let anyone getaway with ripping us off… Warning do not fuck around in NYC. #Feathercoinscamsquad -
[quote name=“CloudScrypt” post=“54647” timestamp=“1390581197”]
Also, if you have confirmation of the above why not contact KnC - I’m sure they would be interested to know a product was purchased with illicit funds?
[/quote]A lawyer knocking on the door for stolen property is probably the best thing to do and succeed in getting refunds. This has to happen fast, since the ASIC is going to be shipped until Q2.
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[quote name=“Pryderi” post=“54681” timestamp=“1390587135”]
[quote author=CloudScrypt link=topic=7170.msg54647#msg54647 date=1390581197]
Also, if you have confirmation of the above why not contact KnC - I’m sure they would be interested to know a product was purchased with illicit funds?
[/quote]A lawyer knocking on the door for stolen property is probably the best thing to do and succeed in getting refunds. This has to happen fast, since the ASIC is going to be shipped until Q2.
[/quote]This. +1 rep.
Involve your lawyer. This is a LEGAL case. You have more than enough evidence to pursue a class action lawsuit. The lawyer has a much better understanding of what steps can be taken to retrieve your funds, and there’s a REALLY good chance you can find one who will do it pro-bono (without pay up front).
How? Reach out to the community. Post the story on bitcointalk.org. Go to reddit. Organize the damages in a google doc and link to it. Ask for legal assistance. Ask for a lawyer to get involved. Explain you’re just trying to get your money back, and you know where the person is (no need to spread that around, save it for the lawyer), and that he purchased things with the stolen money, and you have proof. Screenshot the forum posts. Archive the emails. Put it all into a wiki or a blog.
This is really upsetting and it’s a crappy thing to do but you are not helpless and there is recourse if you band together to make it happen.
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I just contacted KNCMiner to let them know about the case, that the unit was purchased using illegal funds (scam/fraud), and that it might be an claim/police matter.
Urging them to be carefull about delivering goods until this dispute has been resolved.Ill let you guys know if i get an answer from them.
I do not expect em to be able to do anything, but if they can at least hold of on the goods til the proper legal actions have been made its a step in the right direction.
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There is enough evidence he really is in Ireland, near Dublin, although not at the address he published.
I would have to +1 the legal route suggestions, but beware of which branch of the Gardai you involve as local coppers are unlikely to be able to help much.
Let me know if you need help with analysing email headers etc.
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I want my funds back as much as anyone else that has been scammed but guys, our coins are gone never to return.
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I wonder. Whether or not Bitcoin/Litecoin/Feathercoin are legal currencies doesn’t even matter. He sold services and acknowledged those with legally binding agreements. Either he’s going to deliver what he promised, or he’s a sitting duck for the legal bloodhounds. His choice: deliver the contracts asap, refund the coins, or be sued for the total projected value of the contracts he agreed to, but failed to deliver. The projected value of what he owes me is $16,000. All together it’s more then $100,000, I think. Ouch…
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Damn sorry guys…i hope all goes well for the community. I was hoping this want going to be a scam but now its all too real.
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[quote name=“svennand” post=“54687” timestamp=“1390588535”]
I just contacted KNCMiner to let them know about the case, that the unit was purchased using illegal funds (scam/fraud), and that it might be an claim/police matter.
Urging them to be carefull about delivering goods until this dispute has been resolved.Ill let you guys know if i get an answer from them.
I do not expect em to be able to do anything, but if they can at least hold of on the goods til the proper legal actions have been made its a step in the right direction.
[/quote]did they confirm or not if the unit was paid for?
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[quote name=“svennand” post=“54687” timestamp=“1390588535”]
I just contacted KNCMiner to let them know about the case, that the unit was purchased using illegal funds (scam/fraud), and that it might be an claim/police matter.
Urging them to be carefull about delivering goods until this dispute has been resolved.Ill let you guys know if i get an answer from them.
I do not expect em to be able to do anything, but if they can at least hold of on the goods til the proper legal actions have been made its a step in the right direction.
[/quote]They will sell their miner nonetheless whether it’s to him or anyone else. The fact you warned them has to be saved on record for any future evidence when did did deliver their miner to him or did not freeze the purchase amount. So either phonecalls or e-mails, please save them.
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54689” timestamp=“1390588724”]
There is enough evidence he really is in Ireland, near Dublin, although not at the address he published.I would have to +1 the legal route suggestions, but beware of which branch of the Gardai you involve as local coppers are unlikely to be able to help much.
Let me know if you need help with analysing email headers etc.
[/quote]Considering some purchasers were in the US you have a potential fraud-by-wire case going, too. That’s FBI involvement.
[quote=finalbillybong]I want my funds back as much as anyone else that has been scammed but guys, our coins are gone never to return.[/quote]
Absolutely realistic and no one can be faulted for it, but at the same time I feel it’s the moral obligation of anyone effected to make this process as painful as possible for the scammer in question.
Oh, and anyone with a faster machine and connection than I would probably want to go ahead and make a PDF of his entire post history so that you have something sequential and timestamped and shows it’s not been altered. Before he goes through and edits all his posts removing or altering information. There is a backup of the forum database that can be parsed through if he does pull that, but still. Saves a little work if it comes to pass.
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[quote=finalbillybong]I want my funds back as much as anyone else that has been scammed but guys, our coins are gone never to return.[/quote]
Absolutely realistic and no one can be faulted for it, but at the same time I feel it’s the moral obligation of anyone effected to make this process as painful as possible for the scammer in question.
[/quote]For me when something like this happens its not even about the money, its the principle - i will never let this lye.