Scryptcloud owes you:
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Hooray for sanity. Emotions were running high. Understandable, but seriously coloring the atmosphere to a darker shade then needed. I was contemplating my resignation, I’d rather lose my handful of BTC then. FTClover working on fixing this somehow means a lot more then me.
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“54872” timestamp=“1390633682”]
First of all I want to assure you the best course for everyone involved is for everyone to just relax a little, and work this out calmly.FTClover has reached out to me, and I’ll be responding in detail with what I think he should do.
In the mean time, I have some good news. I’ve been in touch with a partner of his who built the website. He has voulenteered to refund his portion of the money, which totals at 8.885 BTC.
I’ve started a google document where I will be keeping track of who is owed what. I’ll be publishing that tomorrow.
If you haven’t already, I need you to PM me with the following information:
How much you paid.
[b]The TX ID of your payment.[/b]
The Date of the payment.
Where you want the refund sent.We need to be SUPER strict about that TX id. It needs to match the amount you made, and the time you claim to have made it. If you need help finding it, please let me know.
I’ll be putting all this into the google doc tomorrow, so please PM me right away with the above information so I can get this process underway.
In the mean time I’ll be working with FTClover as best I can to make sure this doesn’t have to be any more painful than is absolutely necessary. My goal is to get you all your money back, and have us go our separate ways amicably.
I’m also assembling a document with EVERYONE’s findings in it. So far I have just about everything you could ask for: IP addresses, real name, verified real addresses, alternate accounts on popular forums, screenshots of all the messages he’s written, screen shots of the website in different stages, private chat logs on skype, emails… I mean it’s getting out of hand here how much data I’ve collected.
I will NOT be releasing this to anyone. I will not make it public, and I will not publish it under any circumstances. I will, however, surrender it to the authorities/a retained lawyer if it becomes necessary to take legal action. It’s my firm belief we can avoid that though through mediation and calm discussion, which I hope to carry out privately with FTClover in the next few days.
I’ll keep you all updated with my progress. Please PM me your transaction details if you haven’t.
[/quote]You sir are a true gent, and a credit to the community. I only hope that one day people are able to repay you in some way for the services you are offering.
+1 Rep and I’ll send over a few FTC for beer and pizza later
UM
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54764” timestamp=“1390595615”]
Ok so my wallet was on my phone, and it has been lost… I was riding my motorbike and it must have fallen out of the pocket, I have spent days driving up and down the same route in search of the phone with no luck whatsoever…I will try again tomorrow and hopefully I find it before any further action is taken…
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I had to read this a few times before I actually could comprehend it. Sorry to those who were scammed and thanks for the laugh FTClover. -
[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“54846” timestamp=“1390604938”]
Now I know tempers are running high but I want to call for all members to keep a level head. I hope everyone gets their money back through the legal courts. Dont do anything illegal. I want to point out that if this man is an experienced scamer he could:1. communicate through a VPN based in ireland.
2. find some pictures of some random irish fellow and make a fake facebook page with those pictures.
3. communicate through that fake facebook page with that person’s real address.
4. photoshop receipts etc to that random poor irish fellow’s name and that random fellow wouldnt even know it!
5. be located halfway across the world and we wouldnt even know it!Remember, this could be identity theft as well as wirefraud…
[/quote]Yup, but if this is the case, why is he still bothering to put effort in posting here? A real thief will disappear into the shadows.
I see this has been said already. Man I need some rest now after reading all this - honestly we should create a entertainment website with Shane Quotes and funny stories. 8)
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[quote name=“Pryderi” post=“54918” timestamp=“1390652615”]
[quote author=MrFeathers link=topic=7176.msg54846#msg54846 date=1390604938]
Now I know tempers are running high but I want to call for all members to keep a level head. I hope everyone gets their money back through the legal courts. Dont do anything illegal. I want to point out that if this man is an experienced scamer he could:1. communicate through a VPN based in ireland.
2. find some pictures of some random irish fellow and make a fake facebook page with those pictures.
3. communicate through that fake facebook page with that person’s real address.
4. photoshop receipts etc to that random poor irish fellow’s name and that random fellow wouldnt even know it!
5. be located halfway across the world and we wouldnt even know it!Remember, this could be identity theft as well as wirefraud…
[/quote]Yup, but if this is the case, why is he still bothering to put effort in posting here? A real thief will disappear into the shadows.
[/quote]maybe to buy some time before moving away
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54928” timestamp=“1390657946”]
Ok so I am starting the refunds now, Will take some time, but I will refund what I have now then just need some time to sell some stuff and also to talk with kevlar :)
[/quote]This will be interesting. if anyone receives any part of a refund please post the amount and details in this thread…
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I payed through BTC-E. I guess direct refunding won’t work in that case right? I need an own Bitcoin wallet for that.
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54928” timestamp=“1390657946”]
Ok so I am starting the refunds now, Will take some time, but I will refund what I have now then just need some time to sell some stuff and also to talk with kevlar :)
[/quote]i am happy to hear that… and lets see
and please send me back FTC not bitcoins i used FTC to pay you thanks -
I got refunded for 0.184 BTC in euros via wire international payment ( bank to bank), I am waiting 4-5 days for the funds to arrive !
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[quote name=“ghitzafunny” post=“54947” timestamp=“1390660622”]
I got refunded for 0.184 BTC in euros via wire international payment ( bank to bank), I am waiting 4-5 days for the funds to arrive !
[/quote]great
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[quote name=“flcph” post=“54945” timestamp=“1390660560”]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=7176.msg54928#msg54928 date=1390657946]
Ok so I am starting the refunds now, Will take some time, but I will refund what I have now then just need some time to sell some stuff and also to talk with kevlar :)
[/quote]i am happy to hear that… and lets see
and please send me back FTC not bitcoins i used FTC to pay you thanks
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He received your payment in bitcoins . anyways , FTC got cheaper and you can trade the BTC or the refund for more FTC ! -
so the guy that starts the thread saying its not a scam get the first refund in full … interesting. Would it not be better if he doesn’t have enough to refund everyone to divide what he has into %ages and distribute it accordingly so everyone receives partial refunds constantly until all paid?
I am sure Kevlar or another member of staff would help FTClover crunch the numbers or even moderate the refunds based on the amount he has to issue at the time
in any case 0.18 is a long way off the 24+ btc he received and we dont even know for fact that amount will ever get received yet
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I think I am the first to be refunded because I am the first who bought a mining contract (I think) . That way of refunding by dividing the funds to all is a better way , indeed !
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well that the first good news in some time, lets continue this way and let kevlar and ftclover find the best solution,
and later on draw all the conclusion of all this and establish rules for future venturethanks
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I just want to say that i have an appointment with my solicitor on Wednesday afternoon. Its my intention (provided Kevlar has finished the documentation by that time) to take everything along and get a clear understanding from a legal point of view were we stand as to Criminal / Civil proceedings and also obtain an outline of advice as to where we should move from that point.
Regardless of if refunds come through or not i personally see this as a necessary next step forward
If indeed this is a criminal matter (which i strongly suspect it is), we already have members in Ireland that have agreed to take the information to the local police for us.
We might find that both Civil and criminal proceedings can be bought forward in this case.
After my meeting with the solicitor its my intention to forward the advice received to Kevlar who will then co-ordinate the next steps
Thank you
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OK so are refund being sent in BTC? I have no BTC wallet address as I paid in FTC and only deal in FTC - I’d really like me refund in FTC…
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If he owed me money, id take it in rusty pennies if I thought there was a chance I’d get it back.
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[quote name=“finalbillybong” post=“55000” timestamp=“1390671364”]
OK so are refund being sent in BTC? I have no BTC wallet address as I paid in FTC and only deal in FTC - I’d really like me refund in FTC…
[/quote]There will be a way to sort that out - might not be with FTCLover but there will be someone else that will trade them for you.
