Scryptcloud owes you:
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[quote name=“mhamilton79” post=“54826” timestamp=“1390602707”]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=7176.msg54821#msg54821 date=1390601763]
[quote author=mhamilton79 link=topic=7176.msg54819#msg54819 date=1390601344]
[quote author=mmyhre link=topic=7176.msg54817#msg54817 date=1390600835]
Anyway who is this guy. Does anyone know it is a he and not a she and where in the world is this person.
[/quote]i know exactly who he is and where he lives
[/quote]You got on to my facebook… you think you know where I live :)
[/quote]Do you honestly think i found out everything about you from your facebook page, which you seemingly have removed? get real (I’ve got an offline copy of the entire page saved anyway)!
Ill tell you what i will do - i will build a website tomorrow nicely laying out everything i know about you with all your personal details on it. Then you will know exactly what i know about you and so will everyone else. I will also put a forum on it where everyone can post all the details related to your fraud, which can then be given to the police and also serve as an official record of your disgusting crime and abuse of trust that members of this community have given you.
I will then make sure that every single person in the town you live in know you are a thief and a cheat. A nice flyer with your picture and a link to the website i have built will be pushed through every single door in your town - i don’t care how much it costs me.
I will haunt you every single day of your miserable life until you either refund everyone or go to prison - You WILL NOT get away with this.
I don’t care of the consequences to myself, someone has to make a stand against people like you or you will continue to get away it. A line has been drawn
[/quote]Calm down, give Kevlar some time to work his magic ;)
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“54790” timestamp=“1390597952”]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=7176.msg54783#msg54783 date=1390597203]
[quote author=mhamilton79 link=topic=7176.msg54774#msg54774 date=1390596553]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=7176.msg54764#msg54764 date=1390595615]
Ok so my wallet was on my phone, and it has been lost… I was riding my motorbike and it must have fallen out of the pocket, I have spent days driving up and down the same route in search of the phone with no luck whatsoever…I will try again tomorrow and hopefully I find it before any further action is taken…
[/quote] _Please hang him!In all seriousness is anyone actually buying this crap what so ever? when did you lose the phone? are you saying that you never spent a single bitcoin what so ever? every single bitcoin sent to you since you started the project was still in this wallet on your phone? Really? How did you buy/order the equipment then? First you tell me you bought the knc with the bitcoins (and the payment method on your receipt does show bitpay) now you expect people to believe you didn’t spend a single coin and you lost them whilst out on your bike. The only thing you are taking for ride here is everyone on this forum. What kind of cretins do you think we all are? I have never heard of or been exposed to so much BULLSHIT in my entire life
[/quote]First of all nothing has been purchased as the order receipt was just an invoice not a receipt, I was waiting to have enough to buy everything, I lost the phone at 11pm on the 19th of January and have been searching every day except for today as I have a chest infection, I did not spend a single bitcoin. I am going to report to the police, and I bought it second hand off of ebay a couple of months back so I have no box or codes… I don’t even have the bitcoin address that the bitcoins were sent too.
Probably think I’m an idiot but I’ve been trying to delay everything to save face and I thought I would have found it by now! That’s why I wanted more time to go look for it again tomorrow when I am feeling better! Its a good 30 mile stretch of road from here to the city and it could have dropped out anywhere along the way! I am only a learner biker aswell so all I was wearing was a helmet, no protective clothing or anything so it must have fallen out of my jacket pocket…
Sorry guys… I am a disgrace, and I make about €1000 a month as a security guard and I would like to pay everyone back out of my wages but this will be a slow process…
[/quote]Here’s the problem: This contradicts everything you’ve said so far. Which means either you were lying then, or your lying now… likely both.
I keep asking you to PM me for a REALLY good reason: Because we can resolve this by working together. Your continued excuses and revealing lies are not helping you at all. PM me, let’s set up a time to talk this weekend.
Or, you can continue to post excuses and expose the lies you’ve told people, and people will continue to get madder at you, and we can deal with this through lawyers, and you’ll lose everything you own, like that shiny new motorcycle and your computer, and your home if you own it.
I’m offering you a choice here: Work with us to resolve this, and I promise you if you cooperate we’ll keep it all civil, or tell it to the judge who has more than enough evidence to convict you of fraud and theft.
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Calm down, give Kevlar some time to work his magic ;)
[/quote]My calm has all gone i’m afraid. I will continue to work with Kevlar and the community to build this legal case, i will assist in every way i can. Outside of that the gloves are now off for me - I’m going to Ireland
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Ok, please all calm down and let Kevlar do what he does best and provide a structured analysis.
Also, I understand that feelings are running high, but as there is now a very real possibility of a legal route, any posts which threatens, [i]or appears to threaten[/i] any action which might be deemed illegal WILL be edited. This is for the protection of the forum and it’s admins.
This is not directed at any one particular poster, but will be applied to everyone.
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[quote name=“mnstrcck” post=“54815” timestamp=“1390600550”]
[quote author=LTHashEr link=topic=7176.msg54814#msg54814 date=1390600170]
[quote author=CloudScrypt link=topic=7176.msg54804#msg54804 date=1390598977]
Transaction tree seems to tell a different story:
http://blockr.io/address/info/1P1CmWjyEK4qJ9pTFKMgNLUU2xG2VhPw3V
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So, all funds ended up on exchange?
[/quote]Looks like it - or basically a large enough processor.
Checklist of things needed for Garda file:
1. Copy of Posts regarding project/promises.
2. Timeline of events.
3. PM’s - email correspondance.
4. Cache of the ScryptCloud website.
5. Copy of all transactions.I’m not sure, but EU-wide laws might have been triggered by the multi-national nature of this. There might be multiple venues for this to proceed legally. I would suggest getting in touch with a solicitor/lawyer based in Ireland that understands fraud related legal hoops. With enough of a docket, the Garda may simply begin a brief investigation that ends with a trial. From then, a solicitor can probably act as a middle-person for the legal hoopla with regards to assets seizure and garnishment.
Good luck all.
[/quote] Nice. =1 rep -
[quote name=“mhamilton79” post=“54826” timestamp=“1390602707”]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=7176.msg54821#msg54821 date=1390601763]
[quote author=mhamilton79 link=topic=7176.msg54819#msg54819 date=1390601344]
[quote author=mmyhre link=topic=7176.msg54817#msg54817 date=1390600835]
Anyway who is this guy. Does anyone know it is a he and not a she and where in the world is this person.
[/quote]i know exactly who he is and where he lives
[/quote]You got on to my facebook… you think you know where I live :)
[/quote]Do you honestly think i found out everything about you from your facebook page, which you seemingly have removed? get real (I’ve got an offline copy of the entire page saved anyway)!
Ill tell you what i will do - i will build a website tomorrow nicely laying out everything i know about you with all your personal details on it. Then you will know exactly what i know about you and so will everyone else. I will also put a forum on it where everyone can post all the details related to your fraud, which can then be given to the police and also serve as an official record of your disgusting crime and abuse of trust that members of this community have given you.
I will then make sure that every single person in the town you live in know you are a thief and a cheat. A nice flyer with your picture and a link to the website i have built will be pushed through every single door in your town - i don’t care how much it costs me.
I will haunt you every single day of your miserable life until you either refund everyone or go to prison - You WILL NOT get away with this.
I don’t care of the consequences to myself, someone has to make a stand against people like you or you will continue to get away it. A line has been drawn
[/quote] Right on bro! I wish i was with you +1 repHe almost got me aswell…
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54821” timestamp=“1390601763”]
[quote author=mhamilton79 link=topic=7176.msg54819#msg54819 date=1390601344]
[quote author=mmyhre link=topic=7176.msg54817#msg54817 date=1390600835]
Anyway who is this guy. Does anyone know it is a he and not a she and where in the world is this person.
[/quote]i know exactly who he is and where he lives
[/quote]You got on to my facebook… you think you know where I live :)
[/quote]Not cool.
You just blew it.
Even if you lied about that even, there was an opportunity for you to say “oh, about that. I wasn’t upfront. I’ll PM you my actual info.”
Now? Now you’re just dicking with people. You will be given no quarter.
[quote]Do you honestly think i found out everything about you from your facebook page, which you seemingly have removed? get real (I’ve got an offline copy of the entire page saved anyway)![/quote]
Or the reality that a FaceBook page is never actually deleted, and anything ever put on it is just a subpoena away for law enforcement.
As for the rest, hold off. Let the law work while it’s around.
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54831” timestamp=“1390603242”]
Ok, please all calm down and let Kevlar do what he does best and provide a structured analysis.Also, I understand that feelings are running high, but as there is now a very real possibility of a legal route, any posts which threatens, [i]or appears to threaten[/i] any action which might be deemed illegal WILL be edited. This is for the protection of the forum and it’s admins.
This is not directed at any one particular poster, but will be applied to everyone.
[/quote] got it 8) -
guess i must have missed something big. I will give +1 to Kevlar for his amazing effort towards helping resolve this issue. Your commitment to the community never ceases to amaze me.
Hopefully a satisfactory end will come of this, and everyone will get back what they lost.
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PM Sent Kevlar, just confirmed it was a scam from the start :(
Such a waste.
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[quote name=“dvsmasta” post=“54839” timestamp=“1390604185”]
guess i must have missed something big. I will give +1 to Kevlar for his amazing effort towards helping resolve this issue. Your commitment to the community never ceases to amaze me.Hopefully a satisfactory end will come of this, and everyone will get back what they lost.
[/quote]Second that Kevlar been amazing! I doubt we will get back all of our money but we should at least get justice!
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54831” timestamp=“1390603242”]
Also, I understand that feelings are running high, but as there is now a very real possibility of a legal route, any posts which threatens, [i]or appears to threaten[/i] any action which might be deemed illegal WILL be edited. This is for the protection of the forum and it’s admins.This is not directed at any one particular poster, but will be applied to everyone.
[/quote] +1 for Kevlar, and I do agree with the protection of the site and admins. I say that Feathercoin forums should no longer let some one sell stuff like this on the forums, Posts like FTCLovers selling something like scryptcloud mining or anything like this should be removed right away. It’s to easy for people to come to these forums and post scams like this, and then brings drama to our forums. -
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[quote author=spynappels link=topic=7176.msg54831#msg54831 date=1390603242]
Also, I understand that feelings are running high, but as there is now a very real possibility of a legal route, any posts which threatens, [i]or appears to threaten[/i] any action which might be deemed illegal WILL be edited. This is for the protection of the forum and it’s admins.This is not directed at any one particular poster, but will be applied to everyone.
[/quote] +1 for Kevlar, and I do agree with the protection of the site and admins. I say that Feathercoin forums should no longer let some one sell stuff like this on the forums, Posts like FTCLovers selling something like scryptcloud mining or anything like this should be removed right away. It’s to easy for people to come to these forums and post scams like this, and then brings drama to our forums.
[/quote]As a service provider I would hate that to happen because of this guy, one thing I will say is when we are ready to launch I think we will verify our identities with the site admins first! Its a pity because hes opted to go this route, when he probably would have had more success actually running the business.
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[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“54846” timestamp=“1390604938”]
1. communicate through a VPN based in ireland.
2. find some pictures of some random irish fellow and make a fake facebook page with those pictures.
3. communicate through that fake facebook page with that person’s real address.
4. photoshop receipts etc to that random poor irish fellow’s name and that random fellow wouldnt even know it!
5. be located halfway across the world and we wouldnt even know it![/quote]
This is quite likely the case.
Surely the person responsible is not dumb enough to leave his/her own details public on the domain whois. Whoever it is registered to will no doubt have a shock if they ever find out.
While this is a right old mess, the next steps should be rational, clinical and legal. Anything other will harm the case against the person(s) responsible.
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[quote] +1 for Kevlar, and I do agree with the protection of the site and admins. I say that Feathercoin forums should no longer let some one sell stuff like this on the forums, Posts like FTCLovers selling something like scryptcloud mining or anything like this should be removed right away. It’s to easy for people to come to these forums and post scams like this, and then brings drama to our forums.
[/quote]Unless maybe a trusted member of the community volunteers to escrow the items on sale or something? +1
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[quote name=“CloudScrypt” post=“54847” timestamp=“1390605121”]
he probably would have had more success actually running the business.
[/quote]I agree. The site was professional, the order processing worked well and the business turned over $20,000 within days of opening.
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[quote name=“CloudScrypt” post=“54847” timestamp=“1390605121”]
[quote author=hangercure link=topic=7176.msg54844#msg54844 date=1390604779]
+1 for Kevlar, and I do agree with the protection of the site and admins. I say that Feathercoin forums should no longer let some one sell stuff like this on the forums, Posts like FTCLovers selling something like scryptcloud mining or anything like this should be removed right away. It’s to easy for people to come to these forums and post scams like this, and then brings drama to our forums.
[/quote]As a service provider I would hate that to happen because of this guy, one thing I will say is when we are ready to launch I think we will verify our identities with the site admins first! Its a pity because hes opted to go this route, when he probably would have had more success actually running the business.
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I don’t really think that it’s a good idea to support collective punishment of any kind. Removing anything that looks remotely like a scam that someone tried in the past will definitely hurt the honest merchants. Where would the line be drawn? This whole situation is awful for all involved and hope everyone gets paid back, but I think it could end up being worse for CloudScrypt. Just because of the names being similar he will have to deal with the stigma. I hope all goes well; I’ll be monitoring… -
[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“54846” timestamp=“1390604938”]
Now I know tempers are running high but I want to call for all members to keep a level head. I hope everyone gets their money back through the legal courts. Dont do anything illegal. I want to point out that if this man is an experienced scamer he could:1. communicate through a VPN based in ireland.
2. find some pictures of some random irish fellow and make a fake facebook page with those pictures.
3. communicate through that fake facebook page with that person’s real address.
4. photoshop receipts etc to that random poor irish fellow’s name and that random fellow wouldnt even know it!
5. be located halfway across the world and we wouldnt even know it!Remember, this could be identity theft as well as wirefraud…
[/quote]I’m very confident in this situation this is not the case. He is not experienced in anything like this. Experienced scamers would have just vanished for a start. You only have to look a little deeper as the operation to see he hasn’t got a clue
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Can i make a suggestion to admin please that this thread is locked so people post in the other one?
or the other is locked so people post in this one?
seems we have two threads going about the same thing. would it not be better to lock one and merge the relevant posts into the other so its all in the right place or at least in one place?
Will make researching things easier for sure
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Well, I don’t have a clue anymore either.
The story: FTClover figured he can build rigs, set up a nice site, cashed in on a nice load of Bitcoins, and then…
- He purchased hardware, but the wrong kind of cpu’s, some of those are the right kind now, and some rigs are running?
- Then lost his phone with the remainder of the Bitcoins on it, so no way of getting the rest of the needed hardware and no way to refund payment?
So… Is there any hardware in place? Are there rigs running?
And, FTClover, is there ever anywhere anyplace you had a copy of the Bitcoin wallet? How did you get that wallet on your phone? Or did you create a completely new wallet for it on the phone? Is Dropbox or some other service active that might have made a backup? Which wallet program did you use? Maybe it wasn’t hosted on the phone but online somehwere? Any older wallet version or online version you might have could get you out of this mess! The only other option is find the phone.