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      3dant last edited by

      I’m really excited about this new development but its not exactly being shouted from the rooftops…reddcoin seem to have an update every day through social medias.

      Its getting people excited as you’ve probably noticed…saying that…I can’t help…had a chat with some locals about feathercoin in my sleepy German village pub…went down like a lead balloon…

      Think they were more interested in winning the world cup…a joke one of them told me…what’s the difference between the English national team and a tea bag…the tea bag stays in the cup longer…

      anyway…I’m waffling…good work fellas

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        Tuck Fheman last edited by

        it’s a shame rate of release can’t be tied to some form of community health indicator. But I guess there isn’t one that would be suitable or reliable.

        Not exactly what you’re looking for I’m sure, but I use Coingecko as a “community health indicator”.

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          tmuir12 Regular Member last edited by

          Interesting, but I can even that could be manipulated to get you up the ladder, as it also takes into account the number of followers on twitter, and facebook which is easily upped by making fake accounts, same with followers on github.

          Same with people could make forks of the code, to raise its status, liquidity is a good stat though

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            Lukey_p last edited by

            Hi, i have downloaded the testnet and i am currently solomining with my CPU, is this all you need for testing? is there anything else we can do?

            I take it these coins are pointless mining, just for testing, shame huh!

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            • ghostlander
              ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

              Hi, i have downloaded the testnet and i am currently solomining with my CPU, is this all you need for testing? is there anything else we can do?
              I take it these coins are pointless mining, just for testing, shame huh!

              These testnet coins are of no value indeed. You can post your CPU model and hash rate (wallet / CPUminer).

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                Lukey_p last edited by

                Im using my work Laptop and the wallet in the link above, 0.6.6.0 and solo mining.

                using 3/4 cores of an i3-2310M and getting exactly 3000 hashes per second good sir.

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                • ChekaZ
                  ChekaZ last edited by

                  Ive got 14.3kh/s on Intel® Core™ i5-3570K CPU @3.40GHz

                  BTC: 1Ges1taJ69W7eEMbQLcmNGnUZenBkCnn45
                  FTC: 6sxjM96KMZ7t4AmDTUKDZdq82Nj931VQvY

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                    Fiftysven last edited by

                    I got 24.3kh/s on Intel® Core™ i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50 GHz 3.90 GHz

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                      j_scheibel last edited by

                      intel xeon cpu e5-2697 v2 @2.97 ghz

                      solo mining - kind of interesting how it degrades despite not running out of logical processors.

                      1 thread - 2655 h/s

                      2 threads - 5230 h/s

                      4 threads - 10kh/s

                      8 threads - 20 kh/s

                      12 threads - 30 kh/s

                      24 threads - 45 kh/s

                      32 threads - 64 kh/s

                      44 threads - 72 kh/s

                      pool mining

                      1 thread - 8.9kh/s

                      2 thread - 17.2kh/s

                      4 threads - 33.3 kh/s

                      8 threads - 67.6 kh/s

                      12 threads - 100 kh/s *pool miner tends to hang beyond here if I let it run for more than just a few seconds*

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                      • lizhi
                        lizhi last edited by

                        Not connect http, why ?

                        error1_pxc.jpg

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                        • j_scheibel
                          j_scheibel last edited by

                          i had the same problem. no idea how to fix it though. i just used one of the 2 pools listed.

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                            Lukey_p last edited by

                            intel xeon cpu e5-2697 v2 @2.97 ghz

                            solo mining - kind of interesting how it degrades despite not running out of logical processors.

                            1 thread - 2655 h/s

                            2 threads - 5230 h/s

                            4 threads - 10kh/s

                            8 threads - 20 kh/s

                            12 threads - 30 kh/s

                            24 threads - 45 kh/s

                            32 threads - 64 kh/s

                            44 threads - 72 kh/s

                            pool mining

                            1 thread - 8.9kh/s

                            2 thread - 17.2kh/s

                            4 threads - 33.3 kh/s

                            8 threads - 67.6 kh/s

                            12 threads - 100 kh/s *pool miner tends to hang beyond here if I let it run for more than just a few seconds*

                            Hi, i assume you are using Hyper-V or VMware and assigning vCPUs, At a guess, i would imagine using HT cores could contend very quickly. Are you in a position to disable HT on the CPU and assign cores only? just to see if a single core gives more that 2 threads with HT on?

                            Just a thought.

                            Luke

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                            • lizhi
                              lizhi last edited by

                              Yes. Blank or whatever. You can also use “Pool Mining” for solo mining (server = http://127.0.0.1, port = 19554, username and password = what you have in phoenixcoin.conf). There will be a difference in performance though.

                              The wallet uses the reference C code for its solo miner. CPUminer (minerd) is powered by the SSE2 assembly code. It is also used for pool mining by the wallet. Try both and report your KH/s. For example, my 3GHz 4-core A8-3870K delivers 10KH/s using the built-in miner and 8KH/s using CPUminer (yes, it’s slower in my case).

                              Please give me a screen-shot .

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                                FeatherKing last edited by

                                I got 3.4 KH/s with 2 threads on I3-2330 2.2 GHz at pool mining.

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                                • lizhi
                                  lizhi last edited by

                                  Intel G2020 CPU 3.1G is6.5Kh.

                                  neo_ok1.jpg

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                                    Lukey_p last edited by

                                    So, i have a question… When the move is complete, do we think CPU mining will actually be viable? Is CPU mining going to be exclusive for a while before GPU? If GPU mining neoscrypt is working on release, will anyone actually use CPU?

                                    Just throwing it out there, be nice to have an idea, Cheers

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                                    • ghostlander
                                      ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                      Not connect http, why ?

                                      error1_pxc.jpg

                                      Maybe add rpcallowip=127.0.0.1, rpcuser=lizhi and rpcpassword=123 to data/testnet/phoenixcoin.conf?

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                                      • j_scheibel
                                        j_scheibel last edited by

                                        Hi, i assume you are using Hyper-V or VMware and assigning vCPUs, At a guess, i would imagine using HT cores could contend very quickly. Are you in a position to disable HT on the CPU and assign cores only? just to see if a single core gives more that 2 threads with HT on?

                                        Just a thought.

                                        Luke

                                        I wasn’t using any kind of virtual machine. I could go in to the bios and turn off the hyper threading but I can’t imagine that helping overall since you cut the overall power by half. I probably wont be in front of the computer to play with it for a day or so, regardless, I really expect this was more of a bottleneck imposed by the managing process (ie the wallet). I mean the wallet had locking issues when using pool settings with 12 or more threads . so there might be some bugs in there. however, the underlining code that does the new scrypt seems to be running ok though. (which I thought was the point of the test :) )

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                                          mirrax last edited by

                                          I don’t know if Lizhi is successfull with modification of cgminer?

                                          But now two scenarios trouble me a little:

                                          1st, botnets targeting Neoscrypt in CPU era

                                          2nd, if first GPU miner will be private

                                          Is this valid lamentation or not much?

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                                          • lizhi
                                            lizhi last edited by

                                            Hi guys, I’m still not successful . I was caught in the kernel . I refer to the KECCAK, try to write some code. But no progress. :'(

                                            I cannot write similar code for Nerscrypt in driver-opencl.c and ocl.c

                                            #ifdef USE_KECCAK
                                            static cl_int queue_keccak_kernel(_clState *clState, dev_blk_ctx *blk, __maybe_unused cl_uint threads)
                                            {
                                                    cl_kernel *kernel = &clState->kernel;
                                                    unsigned int num = 0;
                                                    cl_int status = 0;
                                            
                                                    status = clEnqueueWriteBuffer(clState->commandQueue,
                                                            clState->keccak_CLbuffer, true, 0,
                                                            KECCAK_BUFFER_SIZE, &blk->keccak_data[0],
                                                            0, NULL,NULL);
                                            
                                                    CL_SET_ARG(clState->keccak_CLbuffer);
                                                    CL_SET_ARG(clState->outputBuffer);
                                            
                                                    return status;
                                            }
                                            #endif
                                            

                                            The biggest difficulty is to write neoscrypt140707.cl, This is a binary code .

                                            		case KL_NEOSCRYPT:
                                            			strcpy(filename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME".cl");
                                            			strcpy(binaryfilename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME);
                                            			/* Neoscrypt only supports vector 1 */
                                            			cgpu->vwidth = 1;
                                            			break;
                                            
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