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      Lukey_p last edited by

      Im using my work Laptop and the wallet in the link above, 0.6.6.0 and solo mining.

      using 3/4 cores of an i3-2310M and getting exactly 3000 hashes per second good sir.

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      • ChekaZ
        ChekaZ last edited by

        Ive got 14.3kh/s on Intel® Core™ i5-3570K CPU @3.40GHz

        BTC: 1Ges1taJ69W7eEMbQLcmNGnUZenBkCnn45
        FTC: 6sxjM96KMZ7t4AmDTUKDZdq82Nj931VQvY

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          Fiftysven last edited by

          I got 24.3kh/s on Intel® Core™ i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50 GHz 3.90 GHz

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          • j_scheibel
            j_scheibel last edited by

            intel xeon cpu e5-2697 v2 @2.97 ghz

            solo mining - kind of interesting how it degrades despite not running out of logical processors.

            1 thread - 2655 h/s

            2 threads - 5230 h/s

            4 threads - 10kh/s

            8 threads - 20 kh/s

            12 threads - 30 kh/s

            24 threads - 45 kh/s

            32 threads - 64 kh/s

            44 threads - 72 kh/s

            pool mining

            1 thread - 8.9kh/s

            2 thread - 17.2kh/s

            4 threads - 33.3 kh/s

            8 threads - 67.6 kh/s

            12 threads - 100 kh/s *pool miner tends to hang beyond here if I let it run for more than just a few seconds*

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            • lizhi
              lizhi last edited by

              Not connect http, why ?

              error1_pxc.jpg

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              • j_scheibel
                j_scheibel last edited by

                i had the same problem. no idea how to fix it though. i just used one of the 2 pools listed.

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                  Lukey_p last edited by

                  intel xeon cpu e5-2697 v2 @2.97 ghz

                  solo mining - kind of interesting how it degrades despite not running out of logical processors.

                  1 thread - 2655 h/s

                  2 threads - 5230 h/s

                  4 threads - 10kh/s

                  8 threads - 20 kh/s

                  12 threads - 30 kh/s

                  24 threads - 45 kh/s

                  32 threads - 64 kh/s

                  44 threads - 72 kh/s

                  pool mining

                  1 thread - 8.9kh/s

                  2 thread - 17.2kh/s

                  4 threads - 33.3 kh/s

                  8 threads - 67.6 kh/s

                  12 threads - 100 kh/s *pool miner tends to hang beyond here if I let it run for more than just a few seconds*

                  Hi, i assume you are using Hyper-V or VMware and assigning vCPUs, At a guess, i would imagine using HT cores could contend very quickly. Are you in a position to disable HT on the CPU and assign cores only? just to see if a single core gives more that 2 threads with HT on?

                  Just a thought.

                  Luke

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                  • lizhi
                    lizhi last edited by

                    Yes. Blank or whatever. You can also use “Pool Mining” for solo mining (server = http://127.0.0.1, port = 19554, username and password = what you have in phoenixcoin.conf). There will be a difference in performance though.

                    The wallet uses the reference C code for its solo miner. CPUminer (minerd) is powered by the SSE2 assembly code. It is also used for pool mining by the wallet. Try both and report your KH/s. For example, my 3GHz 4-core A8-3870K delivers 10KH/s using the built-in miner and 8KH/s using CPUminer (yes, it’s slower in my case).

                    Please give me a screen-shot .

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                      FeatherKing last edited by

                      I got 3.4 KH/s with 2 threads on I3-2330 2.2 GHz at pool mining.

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                      • lizhi
                        lizhi last edited by

                        Intel G2020 CPU 3.1G is6.5Kh.

                        neo_ok1.jpg

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                          Lukey_p last edited by

                          So, i have a question… When the move is complete, do we think CPU mining will actually be viable? Is CPU mining going to be exclusive for a while before GPU? If GPU mining neoscrypt is working on release, will anyone actually use CPU?

                          Just throwing it out there, be nice to have an idea, Cheers

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                          • ghostlander
                            ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                            Not connect http, why ?

                            error1_pxc.jpg

                            Maybe add rpcallowip=127.0.0.1, rpcuser=lizhi and rpcpassword=123 to data/testnet/phoenixcoin.conf?

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                            • j_scheibel
                              j_scheibel last edited by

                              Hi, i assume you are using Hyper-V or VMware and assigning vCPUs, At a guess, i would imagine using HT cores could contend very quickly. Are you in a position to disable HT on the CPU and assign cores only? just to see if a single core gives more that 2 threads with HT on?

                              Just a thought.

                              Luke

                              I wasn’t using any kind of virtual machine. I could go in to the bios and turn off the hyper threading but I can’t imagine that helping overall since you cut the overall power by half. I probably wont be in front of the computer to play with it for a day or so, regardless, I really expect this was more of a bottleneck imposed by the managing process (ie the wallet). I mean the wallet had locking issues when using pool settings with 12 or more threads . so there might be some bugs in there. however, the underlining code that does the new scrypt seems to be running ok though. (which I thought was the point of the test :) )

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                                mirrax last edited by

                                I don’t know if Lizhi is successfull with modification of cgminer?

                                But now two scenarios trouble me a little:

                                1st, botnets targeting Neoscrypt in CPU era

                                2nd, if first GPU miner will be private

                                Is this valid lamentation or not much?

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                                • lizhi
                                  lizhi last edited by

                                  Hi guys, I’m still not successful . I was caught in the kernel . I refer to the KECCAK, try to write some code. But no progress. :'(

                                  I cannot write similar code for Nerscrypt in driver-opencl.c and ocl.c

                                  #ifdef USE_KECCAK
                                  static cl_int queue_keccak_kernel(_clState *clState, dev_blk_ctx *blk, __maybe_unused cl_uint threads)
                                  {
                                          cl_kernel *kernel = &clState->kernel;
                                          unsigned int num = 0;
                                          cl_int status = 0;
                                  
                                          status = clEnqueueWriteBuffer(clState->commandQueue,
                                                  clState->keccak_CLbuffer, true, 0,
                                                  KECCAK_BUFFER_SIZE, &blk->keccak_data[0],
                                                  0, NULL,NULL);
                                  
                                          CL_SET_ARG(clState->keccak_CLbuffer);
                                          CL_SET_ARG(clState->outputBuffer);
                                  
                                          return status;
                                  }
                                  #endif
                                  

                                  The biggest difficulty is to write neoscrypt140707.cl, This is a binary code .

                                  		case KL_NEOSCRYPT:
                                  			strcpy(filename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME".cl");
                                  			strcpy(binaryfilename, NEOSCRYPT_KERNNAME);
                                  			/* Neoscrypt only supports vector 1 */
                                  			cgpu->vwidth = 1;
                                  			break;
                                  
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                                  • lizhi
                                    lizhi last edited by

                                    This is my project, It comes from cgminer 3.6.6

                                    How to build:

                                    cd /D/FTC/neoscrypt/max-cgminer-master

                                    autoreconf -fvi

                                    export LIBCURL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/curl/include

                                    export LIBCURL_LIBS=-L/usr/local/curl/lib

                                    CFLAGS=“-O2 -msse2” ./configure --enable-scrypt --enable-keccak --enable-neoscrypt

                                    make

                                    if have error information "undefined reference to `_imp__curl_easy_init’ "

                                    you edit Makefile file , add " LIBS = -lpdcurses -lpthread -lcurl -lcurldll "

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                                      DemocraticRepublicOfDave last edited by

                                      Hi there.

                                      Can anyone give me the github links to the “standard” neoscrypt cpuminer and wallet?

                                      Lizhi I have your source and am studying it. I am a newbie to opengl but I have been intending for a long time to get into it.

                                      Lizhi, am I correct in that the neoscrypt.c/.h files in the standard reference implementation?

                                      The main issue for me is to understand the neoscrypt algorithm first.

                                      Cheers

                                      Dave.

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                                        slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                        People, I’m following this discussion quite long and I want to ask if audit was performed on the neoscrypt algo?

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                                        • ghostlander
                                          ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                          People, I’m following this discussion quite long and I want to ask if audit was performed on the neoscrypt algo?

                                          What kind of audit?

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                                            slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                            Example: What if someone manage to lower the complexity of the algorithm?
                                            Audit in the form of public review of the algorithm by crypto comunity.

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