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    • Bushstar
      Bushstar last edited by

      FeatherScrypt seems a little like we are taking ownership of it and this should be for everyone. Cryptocoin communities are far to segregated and this may put some off.

      As Scrypt with Chacha and SHA-3 seem a possibility there is a miner that is for Yacoin that could be easily ported if not simply work.

      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247782.0

      It is by mikaelh the same chap who created the HP miner for Primecoin and now works with SunnyKing on Primecoin. mikaelh would be the person to have on board when it comes to an optimised miner.

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        A Former User last edited by

        Brilliant.

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        • kris_davison
          kris_davison last edited by

          could we talk with a few other coins and make this a movement away from scrypt rather than us out on our own? maybe PXC as I see ghostlander has commented in this thread already?

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          • MrWyrm
            MrWyrm administrators last edited by

            Retaining the word ‘scrypt’ in the name will help maintain familiarity. Asking people to move from Scrypt to

            SuperScrypt would seem like a logical progressive step.

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              A Former User last edited by

              maybe PXC as I see ghostlander has commented in this thread already?

              I was actually thinking about that before… maybe pxc changed with us?

              SuperScrypt would seem like a logical progressive step.

              Makes sense to me. I don’t see much harm in changing the name at a later date if it was decided.

              “SuperScrypt” sounds like a fine project name.

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                scruffters last edited by

                FeatherScrypt seems a little like we are taking ownership of it and this should be for everyone. Cryptocoin communities are far to segregated and this may put some off.

                Presumably it’ll wear a GPL license anyways? … in that case I don’t know that it’d matter that much. You make a good point, but for a community that talks about marketing and spreading the word… just being devils advocate Bush-man >:D

                That’s kinda why I liked it haha.

                haha fair play, it is kinda cool I guess 8)

                I’m sure whatever you lot choose it’ll be a perfect fit.

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                  slavco Regular Member last edited by

                  http://www.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~schliebn/dl/Blue-Midnight-Wish.pdf

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                  • Bushstar
                    Bushstar last edited by

                    http://www.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~schliebn/dl/Blue-Midnight-Wish.pdf

                    DarkCoin uses eleven different hashing functions, the BMW one you linked in being one of them. Thinking about it we should probably aim for the better known solutions as the extra exposure should reduce the risk of undiscovered vulnerabilities.

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                      slavco Regular Member last edited by

                      DarkCoin uses eleven different hashing functions, the BMW one you linked in being one of them. Thinking about it we should probably aim for the better known solutions as the extra exposure should reduce the risk of undiscovered vulnerabilities.

                      I think good idea will be implementing single hashing function ( not used until now and BMW was just an example ) and giving support for it via CPU and GPU cuda + opencl based miners. This way we will be original, will be ready to get the old + new GPU users and there won’t be a reason for someone to point at feathercoin as not original or stealers… This way if we reach the point of building ASIC processors for it we will be one #win coin.

                      Another important thing we fail to deliver is support software and services for fethercoin ( blockchain dot info, coinbase like services, wallets mobile + desktop ). Yup I’m aware that this services must be delivered by investors…

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                      • ghostlander
                        ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                        could we talk with a few other coins and make this a movement away from scrypt rather than us out on our own? maybe PXC as I see ghostlander has commented in this thread already?

                        I welcome this idea, though it needs to be discussed with our development team members. Maybe other coin developers would also like to join this adventure.

                        Presumably it’ll wear a GPL license anyways? … in that case I don’t know that it’d matter that much. You make a good point, but for a community that talks about marketing and spreading the word… just being devils advocate Bush-man >:D

                        Any GPL code isn’t acceptable because it cannot be integrated into the BSD/MIT licenced code of Bitcoin and its derivatives.

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                          scruffters last edited by

                          Any GPL code isn’t acceptable because it cannot be integrated into the BSD/MIT licenced code of Bitcoin and its derivatives.

                          I didn’t know it was MIT! Thanks for the correction. I made a silly assumption…

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                            scruffters last edited by

                            …And back on topic, I think you made a good point about widening the net to other coin devs too.

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                              Vidicus Regular Member last edited by

                              I like where this idea is headed. Keeping the mining distributed over a wider selection people is beneficial not only from a blockchain security perspective, but also from an adoption perspective.

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                                eaxvac Regular Member last edited by

                                MegasCrypt :D

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                                • kris_davison
                                  kris_davison last edited by

                                  Seeing as keccack won the sha3 competition because it was innovative in its design but ultimately slower than the skein entry could this be a candidate for scrypt replacement.?

                                  Edit:
                                  I see darkcoin use this as well.
                                  Greedy darkcoin. Lol

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                                  • Bushstar
                                    Bushstar last edited by

                                    I read the graph that Calem posted wrong, the lower score is better with Blake2 coming out best. Blake is actually the evolved version of Salsa that we are currently using. I’m happy to take Ghostlander’s advice on what is most suitable as he is the most informed person on this and he came up with this ingenious idea. Right now I do not believe that this is urgent, GPU miners will only start looking for alternatives when the Scrypt hash starts climbing rapidly and their kits stop generating a profit like we saw with Bitcoin.

                                    If we can come up with a working specification then we can take this to the altcoin forum on Bitcointalk to gain interest of other altcoin devs.

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                                    • lizhi
                                      lizhi last edited by

                                      OK , Can we consider adding POS system ? POW + 25%POS . This is another way can be selected.

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                                        flcph Regular Member last edited by

                                        the NeoScrypt

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                                        • MrWyrm
                                          MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                                          I was thinking more about names last night. Another suggestion that’s much less obvious. “Idavoll”, from what I remember it’s a place in norse mythology untouched by the battle of Ragnarok (end of the world). Those that meet up there take the seeds of Idavoll and use them to reseed the scorched lands.

                                          If you think of ASIC landing as an ‘end of the world’ event, it works.

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                                          • kris_davison
                                            kris_davison last edited by

                                            I was thinking more about names last night. Another suggestion that’s much less obvious. “Idavoll”, from what I remember it’s a place in norse mythology untouched by the battle of Ragnarok (end of the world). Those that meet up there take the seeds of Idavoll and use them to reseed the scorched lands.

                                            If you think of ASIC landing as an ‘end of the world’ event, it works.

                                            Nice!

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