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      mirrax last edited by

      FTC richclub rules

      * you must have 100k FTC to join

      * and you will have 1 vote in executive process

      * _part of money used to finance development of the coin _(not to stabilize price)

      Reason>

      * to self motivate members and increase their drive

      * to speed up development process

      richlub is just proposal name, should be committe or whatever

      There was lot of discussion about this so I would like to know public opinion.

      Is it good to have board of executive members who itself put shitload of money into FTC and that way they are motivate to push coin?

      IMO its great way to speed up everything and get rid of anoying noise.

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        tmuir12 Regular Member last edited by

        Haven’t voted ye as I’m undecided.

        I can see the reasoning behind giving those with large investment a say in how FTC should run, but I can also see the downside that some with large investment may be more motivated by short term gain than longevity of FTC.

        I would hate to see FTC have a ‘Rich Boys Club’ deciding how FTC should be run as how is that different to banks?

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          mirrax last edited by

          On the other side this should be great way to remove final executive power from Bush only.

          Centralized group of 10 people is still way more decentralized that 1 guy.

          (I am not attacking Bush here, I am trying to solve is problem of being loved/hated creator and No.1 man of coin)

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            kris_davison last edited by

            I’m not sure? Plus I don’t have 100,000 coins Lol. But the worry I have is the world is already run by the rich! Dobwe really want to emulate that?

            I would be happy if the rich club was just a force for good and not in control of the coin as that would stay under community control. But in control of the rich club fund!?

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              mirrax last edited by

              I am not big fan of developing everything from scratch. Just adopt usefull stuff (like veribit aka feathersend) and move on.

              =move, don’t stay in neverending discussions.

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              • kris_davison
                kris_davison last edited by

                I agree.

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                  panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                  Instead of “FTC rich”, I propose “FTC saver”, and the limit should be lower, such as 10k. Think about the people who will buy higher. It must also be made clear that the club itself is not a centralized management of the coin, just a “club of coin friends”. The coin itself remains decentralized.

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                  • kris_davison
                    kris_davison last edited by

                    FTC Saver sounds great.
                    Everyone must have at least x? Number of Feathercoins. Plus entry fee is 1,000 FTC which is put into the investment fund.
                    Each member gets a vote on what the fund is used for with majority rule 50%.
                    If the investment creates a profit (such as a bussiness investment) they would be equally distributed to members.

                    Feathercoin (dragons den style?)

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                      mirrax last edited by

                      FTC Saver sounds great.
                      Everyone must have at least x? Number of Feathercoins. Plus entry fee is 1,000 FTC which is put into the investment fund.
                      Each member gets a vote on what the fund is used for with majority rule 50%.
                      If the investment creates a profit (such as a bussiness investment) they would be equally distributed to members.

                      Feathercoin (dragons den style?)

                      Did you just destilated my idea into fine liquor?

                      I love how you put it!

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                      • MrWyrm
                        MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                        I think this is an unfair way of estimating people’s value to feathercoin. The C.I.C will bring about the same result without the having such an old world club. I’m all for a centralised organisation who help look after feathercoin, I’m not even against a ‘membership fee’, but it should be a club where everyone can participate and not just the people who have the largest wallets.

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                          panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                          @MrWyrm, we can have both. There are certain actions that require nothing but online understanding, for that FTC saver club is enough. Other actions require brick and mortar address, and for those, CIC would be used.

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                          • MrWyrm
                            MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                            Still, I’m against the decision makers or the ‘committee’ being exclusive, feathercoin is an inclusive coin for the community. I cannot stress how strongly I believe that a position on the committee should be on merit alone.

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                              slavco Regular Member last edited by

                              Example: What if 51% of this club vote sha256 to be used as PoW algo?

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                              • MrWyrm
                                MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                                Exactly, it’s a dangerous game being able to buy your way onto the board. We need the right people voted for by the people and not the rich people voted for by their wallets.

                                By all means, have a trading club, but the developers should never be answerable to them.

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                                  panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                                  @MrWyrm, we have no control over what kind of clubs people set up. Decentralized currencies are decentralized. A club only decides about its own activites. Clubs with all kinds of rules can be set up.

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                                    panoramix Regular Member last edited by

                                    I mean, Feather is still small, so changes to it are possible. Once Neoscrypt whitepaper is out, people can start writing their own clients. Afterwards, it will be increasingly harder to achieve understanding should or go for another algorithm change. Clubs and/or CICs are there only for promotion, for friendship to Feather. We must emphasize we are not a governing body, just a group of Feather friends.

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                                    • MrWyrm
                                      MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                                      People can do as they please. You miss my point, I’m just after some assurances, if the feathercoin developers become answerable to the shareholders then we may as well go back to fiat.

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                                        mirrax last edited by

                                        People can do as they please. You miss my point, I’m just after some assurances, if the feathercoin developers become answerable to the shareholders then we may as well go back to fiat.

                                        That lamentation would be valid if Bush had infinite resouces.

                                        However that is not our case.

                                        Some serious investors/shareholders should jump on board and provide money for development if they get share of executive power.

                                        This is DECENTRALIZATION of leadership from 1 guy to group. I am not blindly following idea that FTC is community coin where each vote counts.

                                        1st, there is so many voices. 2nd, even the brightest voices of members with abnormal mental capability are unheard sometimes (remeber Kevlar?).

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                                          slavco Regular Member last edited by

                                          Decentralization will be when ACP key could be unlocked by X out of Y where X < Y and X>=2 and Y>=3

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                                            mirrax last edited by

                                            Decentralization will be when ACP key could be unlocked by X out of Y where X < Y and X>=2 and Y>=3

                                            +1

                                            fully agree with you

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