Scrypt Cloud Has Been LAUNCHED!!!!
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[quote name=“svennand” post=“49908” timestamp=“1388913234”]
If he splits up his farm to a friends place he would have an extra fail point in some terms.Scenario:
One of your rigs does a hard crash, your not able to ssh into it or use any other form of remote management.
You´d better hope that friend is home. Cause the only solution to this is a hard restart. So either you gotta have 24/7 access to that place, or you need to get yourself an PDU unit to control turning power on/off remotely over WAN. That again requires that the computer doesn’t boot into some failsafe stuff, i occasionally have to find my monitor and keyboard for my headless miners for manually getting the computer to load the operating system. You could automate this. but that doesn’t always work from my experience.There is like said above the case of DDOS issue, unfortunately theres not much to do about this, don’t show your ip address, or hide behind an relay address that you could change if it gets to hot out there. On a positive side, ddos attacks usually don’t last for a longer period of time.
[/quote]Splitting up the farm has it’s pros and cons for sure. You mentioned a big con, but a big pro is that he’s less sensitive to power outages, still being able to deliver partially to customers, which is a good thing.
The remote PDU part is pretty easy to build, all you need is a RasperyPi and some cheap electronicl components, together with some pretty basic knowledge of how to connect it all and script a solution for it. You piggyback the PI-solution on the powerButton for the rig. Once that’s done, create a script that pings the rig, when you loose 10 or more pings (or so) send a signal to restart the computer and pause the signal sending until a new ping is recieved (indicating the rig is up again).When it comes to security it’s a bit more tricky. In order to protect yourself from DDoS you need a secondary internet connection, a pretty descent firewall and a pretty descent router together with some knowledge on how to set up proper routing, rules and protection (forget home routers, you need something more powerfull like a routerboard 2011 or even more powerful).
What you do is keep a secondary internet connection like a backup, and when the primary connection get’s attacked you fail over to the secondary. This gives you time to get help on your primary connection from your ISP. It’s a cheap and easy to maintain solution to buy you time and avoid downtime with. However, if the attackers figure out where your secondary connection is you’re screwed anyway, but that should take some time at least :)
There are more rigid ways to solve the DDoS problem more permanently, but that costs more than it’s worth imho.The biggest threat you have to protect against is someone breaking into your farm remotely. If that’s done, one can easily steal all your power or use the machines for other purposes which is bad bad bad! First of all don’t run windows. Windows 7 & 8 is pretty secure, but history tells us that when a new exploit surfaces, it takes some time for microsoft to act on it and patch the vulnerability. Linux distributions like Debian, CentOS and openSUSE have a better track record here, way better!
This is also a good reason to have a powerfull firewall, you need to shut down EVERYTHING that doesn’t need to traverse the networks. On top of that you need some kind of monitoring that can send you alarms on everything from rigs going down to attacks on your network. -
I guess it depends on access, but presumably 24/7 access would be a requirement.
[quote name=“svennand” post=“49908” timestamp=“1388913234”]
If he splits up his farm to a friends place he would have an extra fail point in some terms.
[/quote]That is a major point against splitting the deployment between 2 locations.
I’m not experienced enough in the actual deployment of this stuff, but it just seemed to me that this option at least halves the technical challenge of powering and cooling 39 co-located GPUs.
If it causes more problems that it solves, then its not worth the bother.
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Hi, it sounds like a good idea. About the security issue: wouln’t it help if you distribute the coins every day to your clients ? It should minimalize the safety risk if you reduce the amount on your account . Despite it will take more work for you it can help to get the confidence of customers.
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Take a look at one of my other posts where i’m comparing pools regarding efficiency…
You might consider running your own pool, either centralized or p2pooled.
I even think (positive critics on) that when offering this a a commercial service you ‘should’ run your own pool to prevent downtimes, fees etc.
Sure its an extra ‘job’ but you want to go commercial right ?
Did you think about the downtime of your Internet connection ?
If I were to ‘rent’ your service i would like to have some guarantee on availability.
One option might be to setup/rent a load balancer on an Internet Exchange and have it redirected to your ‘home’ connection.
Easier to deal with DDOS, temporary moving to another location, splitting up etc etc.
You aim to become a major key player in renting out this service, did you think about the next step, where to move when you’re adding another 100+ GPU’s ?Dont take me wrong, i really like the idea but its very easy to crash and burn with this stuff…
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I have a solution to all these problems! I did some digging and I found out that I could rent a storage unit for about 10 euro a week and electricity is free. I will have 24 hour access with a unique key card and each storage unit is also monitored 24/7 by CCTV. If one storage unit gets too hot will all rigs inside I will just rent another :) and MrSheep has messaged me saying he will help me set up a p2pool so that’s another problem solved…
So I’m expecting the motherboards to arrive first thing in the morning! I can’t wait! I will post an update on the website blog when they arrive :D
And sorry if I’ve been taking too long to respond to your messages, I’ve been swamped with messages and work the last couple of days but I should be able to get back to everyone at some stage :)
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[quote name=“midwaycy6” post=“50036” timestamp=“1388948539”]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=6481.msg50035#msg50035 date=1388948066]
I have a solution to all these problems! I did some digging and I found out that I could rent a storage unit for about 10 euro a week and electricity is free. I will have 24 hour access with a unique key card and each storage unit is also monitored 24/7 by CCTV. If one storage unit gets too hot will all rigs inside I will just rent another :) and MrSheep has messaged me saying he will help me set up a p2pool so that’s another problem solved…So I’m expecting the motherboards to arrive first thing in the morning! I can’t wait! I will post an update on the website blog when they arrive :D
And sorry if I’ve been taking too long to respond to your messages, I’ve been swamped with messages and work the last couple of days but I should be able to get back to everyone at some stage :)
[/quote]wow 10euros and free electricity? where? i go there with my rigs
[/quote]Are you living in Ireland? If so there’s a few places doing it, the one I’m looking at is just off the M50 :)
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[quote name=“midwaycy6” post=“50042” timestamp=“1388949065”]
Unfortunately no i’m living in Ireland, i’m from Spain. But it’s good to know haha, i have 5 rigs and i’m looking a place to rent since weeks ago, but everything is so expensive.
[/quote]I’m sure you can find storage units in spain somewhere :) I was looking at renting an office or server room but I was getting prices from 600-1000 euro a month which is just not affordable with these kinds of operations! especially here in Ireland ::)
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“50035” timestamp=“1388948066”]
I have a solution to all these problems! I did some digging and I found out that I could rent a storage unit for about 10 euro a week and electricity is free. I will have 24 hour access with a unique key card and each storage unit is also monitored 24/7 by CCTV. If one storage unit gets too hot will all rigs inside I will just rent another :) and MrSheep has messaged me saying he will help me set up a p2pool so that’s another problem solved…So I’m expecting the motherboards to arrive first thing in the morning! I can’t wait! I will post an update on the website blog when they arrive :D
And sorry if I’ve been taking too long to respond to your messages, I’ve been swamped with messages and work the last couple of days but I should be able to get back to everyone at some stage :)
[/quote]Im guessing 10A circuit max and 1,5mm^2 wiring. so you’ll need a couple of those storage spaces, or have you checked this?
Also im guessing that the power won’t stay free for long, guess on the first electric bill the storage unit owner get ;D -
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[quote author=midwaycy6 link=topic=6481.msg50042#msg50042 date=1388949065]
Unfortunately no i’m living in Ireland, i’m from Spain. But it’s good to know haha, i have 5 rigs and i’m looking a place to rent since weeks ago, but everything is so expensive.
[/quote]I’m sure you can find storage units in spain somewhere :) I was looking at renting an office or server room but I was getting prices from 600-1000 euro a month which is just not affordable with these kinds of operations! especially here in Ireland ::)
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You can start a cloud mining server here in Romania , we have great internet speeds and ping time , the electricity cost is very low , like 1 dollar / 10 KWh , and rents are low too , a 2 room flat (apartment) costs like 250 euros per month :P If I could afford a mining rig I would virtually be a billionaire here :P -
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[quote author=midwaycy6 link=topic=6481.msg50042#msg50042 date=1388949065]
Unfortunately no i’m living in Ireland, i’m from Spain. But it’s good to know haha, i have 5 rigs and i’m looking a place to rent since weeks ago, but everything is so expensive.
[/quote]I’m sure you can find storage units in spain somewhere :) I was looking at renting an office or server room but I was getting prices from 600-1000 euro a month which is just not affordable with these kinds of operations! especially here in Ireland ::)
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You can start a cloud mining server here in Romania , we have great internet speeds and ping time , the electricity cost is very low , like 1 dollar / 10 KWh , and rents are low too , a 2 room flat (apartment) costs like 250 euros per month :P If I could afford a mining rig I would virtually be a billionaire here :P
[/quote]250euros in the main cities?
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Here , in Bucharest , the capital city , we have rents ranging from 200 to 350 euros for a two room flat , in other cities it may be even cheaper . The prices are so low because we earn like 350-400 euros per month from a good job , like working in a bank institution :| , there are other jobs that pays as low as 150-200 euros per month , being a teacher is one of that jobs :( -
Only 9Mh/s in contracts left before we’re sold out :D get em while there hot 8)
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Motherboards have arrived 8)
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“50508” timestamp=“1389119145”]
Motherboards have arrived 8)
[/quote]Pic or it didn’t happen!
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“50510” timestamp=“1389119243”]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=6481.msg50508#msg50508 date=1389119145]
Motherboards have arrived 8)
[/quote]Pic or it didn’t happen!
[/quote]It’s on the website in the blog, I just updated the website yesterday as I was in a hurry :)
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Just 2Mh/s left available for contract!
Will do a deal to sell the last of the mining contracts, 2Mh/s 12 month feathercoin/litecoin contract for just 3 BTC (0.4BTC Off).
Please pm me if you are interested!
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I’ll be checking back in a few days if I can get the funds together…
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[quote name=“midwaycy6” post=“50787” timestamp=“1389213151”]
I’m interested in one of your contracts, but i want to see some photos or something “real” im tired of scammers…
[/quote]No problem midway, I sent you a pm :)
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This is interesting.
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I’m interested in the last three, would make a good write up story for a new investing venture series for my blog. Would be able to write about it daily once the mining started.
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Hey guys! been really busy! We got confirmation that the gpu’s have been shipped, and should be arriving on the 20th of January, a little delay but we should have everything up by the 22nd, sorry about the delay… I’ve been trying to sort out the storage units and have started moving things in! Will do an update on the blog tomorrow! :)
