[Dev] Hard fork to change retarget, averages and block time

kris_davison

As for the name we need to be careful as ACP has Advanced in the title and the two things are completely unrelated.

Maybe something like

Quondam Difficulty Adjustment

MrWyrm

FOMP - Stands for, Please Go Away Multipools.

wrapper

Just a thought… I dont think you can adjust difficulty mid block??

The difficulty is set so that the “current hash rate” will produce an answer (Transaction Block) at the correct time. There is no mid block. That is why driveing up the difficulty leaves longer times for loyal miners and less blocks being produced.

You are completely correct though about the difficulties of changing the algorithm, we spent most time making sure we did not open ourselves to other forms of “more evil” attacks, such as those against Terracoin…

Wellenreiter

:)

if(fNewDifficultyProtocol) //DigiShield implementation - thanks to RealSolid & WDC for this code
{
		// amplitude filter - thanks to daft27 for this code
        nActualTimespan = retargetTimespan + (nActualTimespan - retargetTimespan)/8;
        printf("DIGISHIELD RETARGET\n");
        if (nActualTimespan < (retargetTimespan - (retargetTimespan/4)) ) nActualTimespan = (retargetTimespan - (retargetTimespan/4));
        if (nActualTimespan > (retargetTimespan + (retargetTimespan/2)) ) nActualTimespan = (retargetTimespan + (retargetTimespan/2));
}

This looks very simple, and we already have a comparable piece of code in feathercoin, if I read our source right ;)

Different values, but the same principle.

I doubt, that it will be sufficient for them in the long run

wrapper

Re: DigiShield implementation

I can also see another problem we tried to avoid in using the nActualTimespan. The solution without reference to measuring actual time has fewer drawbacks.

Tuck Fheman

Just a couple of points.

We will probably need a name. That has not been our priority but something like “Advanced Difficulty Averaging” ADA

or ABC - Advanced block calculation. or FAB Feathercoin Advanced Block (Calc)

FMP

kris_davison

FOMP - Stands for, Please Go Away Multipools.

Lol

Tuck Fheman

FOMP - Stands for, Please Go Away Multipools.

Ah, didn’t see someone beat me to it!

EnigmaMan

We def need to get this change going soon… This is killing loyal miners with the hash rate so low, and it will take over 9 hours to re-target???

lizhi

Yes. Last week I have stopped my POOL, mining FTC no profit . Purchase cost than mining. I’m minging some of the new currency until the FTC Reply.

Bushstar

If we drop the difficulty change then it increases the ability of multipools to manipulate us. The flip side is that hostile entities can push our difficulty up quicker, but there is still the averaging that stops it from being too rapid.

Wrapper is happy with the 9% difficulty as it is and our difficulty change is still less than Dogecoin are planning. They now have a lot of resources and developers as they launched into a much bigger crypt community. We should give them some faith… Actually their new difficulty should have kicked in by now. I’m going to go take a look at how they are doing.

Once we are past the fork we can look at the algo change to duck the Scrypt ASICs and who ever has been attacking us with what is presumed redirected Scrypt resources.

EnigmaMan

Here we go again today with another 9hr High difficulty rate and only 1 hr at a lower difficulty rate once it resets.

Any idea on the time frame these difficulty changes might be implemented?

We def need to get this change going soon… This is killing loyal miners with the hash rate so low, and it will take over 9 hours to re-target???

Wellenreiter

These changes need to be tested carefully before implementation.

It’s in the testbed right now.

We all are keen to get it implemented, but we need to be sure, that it works as expected before we can implement it in the production network.

I’m sure, as soon as the tests are finished, Bushstar will announce the change and the new version of the wallet will be released

lizhi

Inspirational . We need to deal with 30Ghash attacks. In the future may also be more.

voingiappone

Yes lizhi, we are in the 30 GH/s right now… and they keep pushing at least to times a day.

So, wellenreiter, keep up the good work!

MrWyrm

The people involved should rattle their tip jars a little more. :)

Wellenreiter

The people involved should rattle their tip jars a little more. :)

rattle… rattle… rattle…

Lol :D

Look at my signature ;)

But I’m not doing this for tips, even if every tip is appreciated ;)

I want to keep feathercoin safe and solid in the long term.

MrWyrm

Still, tipping culture is a positive one. :)

Wellenreiter

It is and it’s a nice motivation, indeed :)

ghostlander

Another way to stop multipools is to implement a block limiter. It accepts only a limited number of blocks per time frame and orphans the rest. Multipools waste about 90% of their hash power this way. I understand many may not like this solution, but PXC is going to adopt it in the next update. It doesn’t require a hard fork though.