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      Tuck Fheman last edited by

      Just a couple of points.

      We will probably need a name. That has not been our priority but something like “Advanced Difficulty Averaging” ADA

      or ABC - Advanced block calculation. or FAB Feathercoin Advanced Block (Calc)

      FMP

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      • kris_davison
        kris_davison last edited by

        FOMP - Stands for, Please Go Away Multipools.

        Lol

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          Tuck Fheman last edited by

          FOMP - Stands for, Please Go Away Multipools.

          Ah, didn’t see someone beat me to it!

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            EnigmaMan last edited by

            We def need to get this change going soon… This is killing loyal miners with the hash rate so low, and it will take over 9 hours to re-target???

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            • lizhi
              lizhi last edited by

              Yes. Last week I have stopped my POOL, mining FTC no profit . Purchase cost than mining. I’m minging some of the new currency until the FTC Reply.

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              • Bushstar
                Bushstar last edited by

                If we drop the difficulty change then it increases the ability of multipools to manipulate us. The flip side is that hostile entities can push our difficulty up quicker, but there is still the averaging that stops it from being too rapid.

                Wrapper is happy with the 9% difficulty as it is and our difficulty change is still less than Dogecoin are planning. They now have a lot of resources and developers as they launched into a much bigger crypt community. We should give them some faith… Actually their new difficulty should have kicked in by now. I’m going to go take a look at how they are doing.

                Once we are past the fork we can look at the algo change to duck the Scrypt ASICs and who ever has been attacking us with what is presumed redirected Scrypt resources.

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                  EnigmaMan last edited by

                  Here we go again today with another 9hr High difficulty rate and only 1 hr at a lower difficulty rate once it resets.

                  Any idea on the time frame these difficulty changes might be implemented?

                  We def need to get this change going soon… This is killing loyal miners with the hash rate so low, and it will take over 9 hours to re-target???

                  Feathercoin.png

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                  • Wellenreiter
                    Wellenreiter Moderators last edited by

                    These changes need to be tested carefully before implementation.

                    It’s in the testbed right now.

                    We all are keen to get it implemented, but we need to be sure, that it works as expected before we can implement it in the production network.

                    I’m sure, as soon as the tests are finished, Bushstar will announce the change and the new version of the wallet will be released

                    Feathercoin development donation address: 6p8u3wtct7uxRGmvWr2xvPxqRzbpbcd82A
                    Openpgp key: 0x385C34E77F0D74D7 (at keyserver.ubuntu.com)/fingerprint: C7B4 E9EA 17E1 3D12 07AB 1FDB 385C 34E7 7F0D 74D7

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                    • lizhi
                      lizhi last edited by

                      Inspirational . We need to deal with 30Ghash attacks. In the future may also be more.

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                        voingiappone Regular Member last edited by

                        Yes lizhi, we are in the 30 GH/s right now… and they keep pushing at least to times a day.

                        So, wellenreiter, keep up the good work!

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                        • MrWyrm
                          MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                          The people involved should rattle their tip jars a little more. :)

                          Like what I do: 6uuy6isbrW1SBF191Bzgui1gWxPdNKx2PB

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                          • Wellenreiter
                            Wellenreiter Moderators last edited by

                            The people involved should rattle their tip jars a little more. :)

                            rattle… rattle… rattle…

                            Lol :D

                            Look at my signature ;)

                            But I’m not doing this for tips, even if every tip is appreciated ;)

                            I want to keep feathercoin safe and solid in the long term.

                            Feathercoin development donation address: 6p8u3wtct7uxRGmvWr2xvPxqRzbpbcd82A
                            Openpgp key: 0x385C34E77F0D74D7 (at keyserver.ubuntu.com)/fingerprint: C7B4 E9EA 17E1 3D12 07AB 1FDB 385C 34E7 7F0D 74D7

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                            • MrWyrm
                              MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                              Still, tipping culture is a positive one. :)

                              Like what I do: 6uuy6isbrW1SBF191Bzgui1gWxPdNKx2PB

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                              • Wellenreiter
                                Wellenreiter Moderators last edited by

                                It is and it’s a nice motivation, indeed :)

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                                • ghostlander
                                  ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                  Another way to stop multipools is to implement a block limiter. It accepts only a limited number of blocks per time frame and orphans the rest. Multipools waste about 90% of their hash power this way. I understand many may not like this solution, but PXC is going to adopt it in the next update. It doesn’t require a hard fork though.

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                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    rattle… rattle… rattle…

                                    Lol :D

                                    Look at my signature ;)

                                    But I’m not doing this for tips, even if every tip is appreciated ;)

                                    I want to keep feathercoin safe and solid in the long term.

                                    Your work is appreciated :-)

                                    Edit: you too wrapper

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      Another way to stop multipools is to implement a block limiter. It accepts only a limited number of blocks per time frame and orphans the rest. Multipools waste about 90% of their hash power this way. I understand many may not like this solution, but PXC is going to adopt it in the next update. It doesn’t require a hard fork though.

                                      Could it be beneficial/possible for ftc to also add block limiting?

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                                      • Bushstar
                                        Bushstar last edited by

                                        Block limiting stops more than a certain amount of blocks being mined in set time period. It does this by orphaning blocks. Very small coins may need this if their hash power can be sent up by hundreds of times but that does not apply to us, plus I would personally be unhappy if I spent two days solo mining a block at home to get my block orphaned by the block limiter.

                                        Ghostlander has come up with a good solution for Phoenix coin but I do not believe that it suits us.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          Ah ok. Fair enough. Was just curios.

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                                          • wrapper
                                            wrapper Moderators last edited by

                                            Hi All,

                                            Just thought you “guys” should know Bush has been working very very hard with Wellenreiter on getting “Enhanced hash rate compensation” coded and tested.

                                            We are getting to the stage where some code review would really help. Particularly looking at “shed painting protocols” and for any other code traps.

                                            I’m hopefully we can get a more public test up on line, again a few volunteers to do some testing would encourage Bush to take some time to open it out.

                                            Remember, the more members that get involved the safer and quicker we can get this done.

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