[Dev] NeoScrypt Hardware Comparison Site
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Certainly, any CPU’s or GPU’s you have that you could test with?
Technically GDDR5 is QDR, as it is “Quad Pumped” rather than “Double Pumped”, looked at the wikipedia page to clarify, its got all sorts of bits per pin per clock - no idea what they are but i do know GDDR5 is “Quad Pumped”, hence effective frequency is 4x its actual frequency
Octa Pumped memory could make things very interesting, we’d have graphics cards with 128GB/s+ memory bandwidth @ 1GHz actual frequency on 128 bit interfaces, never mind 256 / 384 / 512 bit interfaces. lol @ 512 bit 2GHz actual, 16GHz effective… 1TB/s effective data rate O.o
Anyway…
Please send me your hardware info and hashrates
Send me your cards details (manufacturers page is very useful), i shall add a submission page on the site shortly (trying to learn html + php for forms xD) which will make this easier.
Any overclock info you have applied and fanspeeds/profiles, also write if you are using a custom bios, e.g R9 270X bios on a HD 7870, or other modified bios.
Temperatures are welcome too, this can show if people are doing something wrong, also list if it is watercooled or not, as this will obviously effect temps
For proofs:
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screenshot of your miner software
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screenshot of EITHER (or both if you’re mining with both CPU and GPU at once like me)
-CPU-z (if its a cpu)
-GPU-z with both pages open at once (monitor and info)
Upload screenshots somewhere and post a link along with your miner config (remove any information you dont wish to share)
This is so i can add more accurate and detailed info :D
I will upload an example submission
But I’m on Linux!
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But I’m on Linux!
in that case, does linux have any utility to give exact clock rates of gpu/cpu? maybe grep something something | something :P ill have a look see what i can find :D
i remember using this: lshw -numeric -C display
when i was trying to debug a graphics related linux server crash, i think it pulls some info, but i will try and find a utility (unless you know one)
EDIT: this looks promising: http://openhardwaremonitor.org/downloads/ could probably use it to give info of both cpu and gpu :)
EDIT 2: So long as you can prove the hashrates and actual clockrates for cpu + ram / gpu core + vram, and what card it is (generic model number + specifi model number), i can pull most of the information off the other sites and find/calculate mem datarate/bus width myself, its just easier when i can read it off the screenshot.
When i get the sites submission page running, i will add in-depth instructions, for both linux/windows, and mac if i can get someone to do that (although… who actually uses a mac to mine on? lol)
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For AMD cards there is the AMD Catalyst Control Center, which gives information about clock rates and more.
Not sure if all cards are supported.
For NVIDIA there is a tool called NVClock, that can set and read clock rates, but I think the latest cards are not supported. (… yet???)
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I forgot about CCC for amd in linux, i’ve used nvidia cards in linux before, but never amd ones, perhaps i should try lol, i have a copy of windows XP (32 bits) + a key, would this be very good for amd or nvidia mining with cgminer? (im looking to put together a few cards i have lying around from old pc’s (R7 240 + HD 4870) and maybe shoving in a couple of 5850’s if/when i can get my hands on some :D
and hell yes! http://php.net/manual/en/language.variables.external.php
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############### Example Submission ###############
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Here you go, a submission :
Type: CPU
Hashrate: 32-34 Kh/s
Vendor: Intel
Model: Xeon X5570 x 2
Est. Power: 95 W (max TDP) x 2
Miner: cpuminer-neoscrypt
Proof: http://peecee.dk/uploads/112014/cpu_neoscrypt.png
Type: GPU
Hashrate: 311.8 Kh/s
Vendor: Sapphire
Model: Vapor-X Tri-X Radeon R9-280X OC
Est. Power: 250 W TDP
Miner: sgminer 5.1.0-Dev
Type: GPU
Hashrate:314.6 Kh/s
Vendor: ASUS
Model: Radeon R9-280X DirectCUII Top
Est. Power: 250 W TDP
Miner: sgminer 5.1.0-Dev
Proof for both: http://peecee.dk/uploads/112014/gpu_neoscrypt1.png
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Here you go, a submission :
Type: CPU
Hashrate: 32-34 Kh/s
Vendor: Intel
Model: Xeon X5570 x 2
Est. Power: 95 W (max TDP) x 2
Miner: cpuminer-neoscrypt
Proof: http://peecee.dk/uploads/112014/cpu_neoscrypt.png
Type: GPU
Hashrate: 311.8 Kh/s
Vendor: Sapphire
Model: Vapor-X Tri-X Radeon R9-280X OC
Est. Power: 250 W TDP
Miner: sgminer 5.1.0-Dev
Type: GPU
Hashrate:314.6 Kh/s
Vendor: ASUS
Model: Radeon R9-280X DirectCUII Top
Est. Power: 250 W TDP
Miner: sgminer 5.1.0-Dev
Proof for both: http://peecee.dk/uploads/112014/gpu_neoscrypt1.png
took me some time to get through that one! ive entered them now :D
thanks for the submission!
also, i’ve been trying to get sgminer working on my nvidia cards, but all it does is either crash the gpu driver, or produce endless hardware errors :( any tips?
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also, i’ve been trying to get sgminer working on my nvidia cards, but all it does is either crash the gpu driver, or produce endless hardware errors :( any tips?
Besides buying a couple of AMD cards ? :P
Check that OpenCL is functioning on the cards. You need to have an opencl compiler installed, dont know if it is included with the nvidia drivers, or if you need to download a OpenCL SDK/Runtime pack seperately for the Nvidia cards.
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cgMiner runs fine (and compiles the bin etc), but it only manages a whimpy 34 kh/s on 660ti, and 39 on 770, i know nvidia isnt the best for opencl
Ive tried copying the cgminer bin to sgminer but all that does is kill the display driver, no matter what settings i try to use
I can tune my 660ti up to 50+ kh/s with it but it just makes hardware errors
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cgMiner runs fine (and compiles the bin etc), but it only manages a whimpy 34 kh/s on 660ti, and 39 on 770, i know nvidia isnt the best for opencl
Ive tried copying the cgminer bin to sgminer but all that does is kill the display driver, no matter what settings i try to use
I can tune my 660ti up to 50+ kh/s with it but it just makes hardware errors
What happens if you use a pristine install of sgminer 5.1.0-Dev ? Doesn’t it compile a neoscrypt kernel for your nvidia cards ?
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I will try again, i was trying with Wolf0’s optimized sgminer neoscrypt kernel, or perhaps that one was meant for cgminer?
Progress report: the submission form is actually getting a bit of progression!!!
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############### Update News ###############
The “New Submission” page on the site is now working!
You can find it at: http://hw.neoscrypt.tk/new/
Please use that instead of posting submissions here!!!
############### Thanks ###############
Sydney
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Spartan, this is awesome! Thank you ahy!
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I’ll pin this in dev for you if that’s ok.
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Hi all
Proof of my Submission for “Sapphire HD 6570” at http://hw.neoscrypt.tk/new/
proof:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53187180/Proof-GPU_HD6570.jpg
“Sapphire HD 6570 OC to HD6670”
proof: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53187180/Proof-GPU_HD6570_OC_HD6670.jpg
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Hi all
Proof of my Submission for “Sapphire HD 6570” at http://hw.neoscrypt.tk/new/
proof:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53187180/Proof-GPU_HD6570.jpg
You are using the wrong tool to show proof. You are using the GPU Caps Viewer, instead of GPU-Z as requested. GPU-Z shows more info, including the ability to read the sensors on your card.
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My additions to the neo site comparison. (data already entered on ‘new’ page)
pic 1 shows the reported hashrates (I get these before running GPU-z)
pic 2 shows lowered hashrates after running GPU-z and it slows down my hashrate until rebooting!!!
pic 3 shows GPU 1 & 2 -XFX R9 290x settings
pic 4 shows GPU 3 & 4 -Sapphire TRi-x OC R9 290 settings
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Spartan, this is awesome! Thank you ahy!
Thanks, i’m enjoying making it too, learning php and html as i go along :D
I’ll pin this in dev for you if that’s ok.
That’s awesome thanks!
Hi all
Proof of my Submission for “Sapphire HD 6570” at http://hw.neoscrypt.tk/new/
proof:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53187180/Proof-GPU_HD6570.jpg
I’ve accepted your submission on the site, in future try to use GPU-z for proof, as it gives more information :)
You are using the wrong tool to show proof. You are using the GPU Caps Viewer, instead of GPU-Z as requested. GPU-Z shows more info, including the ability to read the sensors on your card.
It’s not too critical now the new submissions page is working, as i can pull most information of other sources (bandwidth/power etc) but it’s easier if people can fill it out themselves (GPU-z gives all the information needed for the fields on the submission page)
For proof all that is needed now is a screenshot of the card name and clockrates, alongwith the miner software showing the hashrate. and please put a link to that in the “notes” section in the submission.
My additions to the neo site comparison. (data already entered on ‘new’ page)
pic 1 shows the reported hashrates (I get these before running GPU-z)
pic 2 shows lowered hashrates after running GPU-z and it slows down my hashrate until rebooting!!!
pic 3 shows GPU 1 & 2 -XFX R9 290x settings
pic 4 shows GPU 3 & 4 -Sapphire TRi-x OC R9 290 settings
Added those now, is the 290 beating the 290x because of the memory type? seems pretty interesting to see how different memory types can effect things alot, perhaps timings have something to do with it.
############### Important ###############
For proof, please upload your screenshot to any free image hosting site, e.g. http://tinypic.com/ or screenshot sharing site e.g. http://gyazo.com
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put this link in the ‘Notes’ section when entering your submission on the new submissions page.
This makes it a whole lot easier to find where peoples proof images are! (i have to check this thread to make sure i havent missed any)
Also: html code can be used in the notes section, to add a link to proof:
[Proof][4]Again can i remind everyone the new submission page is working, and can be found at http://hw.neoscrypt.tk/new/
############### Thanks ###############
Sydney
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You are using the wrong tool to show proof. You are using the GPU Caps Viewer, instead of GPU-Z as requested. GPU-Z shows more info, including the ability to read the sensors on your card.
ok i’ll use it now
thank’s
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Added those now, is the 290 beating the 290x because of the memory type? seems pretty interesting to see how different memory types can effect things alot, perhaps timings have something to do with it.
That is correct, they are both bottlenecked by using wolf’s next oldest kernel because I cannot get the latest one running, but the Hynix vs Elpida memory thing is the single factor in the difference in speed, as they are both using settings very close to each other to get those speeds. Which is why I included the memory type.
When the newest kernel is released in a working windows build, those will have to be edited as they should both see a minimum15% increase in speed. 8)
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Elpida memory must be pretty bad to be that much slower wow xD
Both my 660ti and 770 have hynix, and ive noticed that the memory clock has the biggest effect on hashrate, pulling my 660ti from 1175 core to 1333 barely sped it up by 1kh/s, but pushing the ram from 1503 to 1775 made it shoot up by about 4-5kh/s
Now to see what i can get outa my asus 770 (still waiting for the rest of my watercooling setup so i can swap out my 660ti)
Could probably try overclocking my i7 more and testing out how fast i can get that going on all 8 threads, and give the 660ti a rest (poor things being hammering away for the past 2 weeks straight lol)… i can get this i7 stable at 5ghz (im a lucky ducky) but it does require a lot of overvolting and a lot of cooling, hopefully watercooling will remedy that (as i said still waiting for some parts)
Note: has noone got AMD cpus? Could do with some of those being submitted to the site! That E1-1200 is sitting there all on its own… lonely thing :p
