Neoscrypt for nvidia cards based on cuda: Call for donation.
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Both CUDA and OpenCL are high level abstractions. The only important difference is the 1st proprietary and the 2nd free. OpenCL gets translated into CAL/IL and further into ISA on AMD. CUDA and OpenCL get translated into PTX and further into ISA on NVIDIA. Considering this infomation, CUDA is getting obsolete and will die sooner or later.
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Both CUDA and OpenCL are high level abstractions. The only important difference is the 1st proprietary and the 2nd free. OpenCL gets translated into CAL/IL and further into ISA on AMD. CUDA and OpenCL get translated into PTX and further into ISA on NVIDIA. Considering this infomation, CUDA is getting obsolete and will die sooner or later.
I think you are expressing more an opinion than a fact.
I personnally prefer to program with cuda than opencl, I had to do both implementation in my two last projects (vtc and csd). Debugging is a lot easier and to be honest sgminer tends to makes things even worst…
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Well, I’m not that far in hardware related programming, but I simply like the fact, that I don’t need to start my X when using cudaminer as the driver is loaded without having a X environment running.
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Well, I’m not that far in hardware related programming, but I simply like the fact, that I don’t need to start my X when using cudaminer as the driver is loaded without having a X environment running.
I find very annoying the whole thing of using OpenCL on AMD only with fglrx and Xorg loaded, fake screens set up or even dummy plugs installed in the past. Does NVIDIA require Xorg running for OpenCL?
I think you are expressing more an opinion than a fact.
I personnally prefer to program with cuda than opencl, I had to do both implementation in my two last projects (vtc and csd). Debugging is a lot easier and to be honest sgminer tends to makes things even worst…
We all express personal opinions here. SGminer is just another fork for GPU mining. A better one may appear some day.
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Yes, you need to have Xorg running for NVidia cards as well, it’s an Opencl thing and not hardware related.
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Ghostlander, if you can create a cudabased miner that performs well I’ll gladly send you a 750ti that I have over just lying in a box right now to test it on :)
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What a guy!
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He better work on it, because with current state of donation, no way I open source my software.
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I’d prefer to create a fast OpenCL kernel for NVIDIA rather than CUDA based. It’s easier to maintain and debug for me at least. If we manage to crowdfund the hardware cost, the rest is my business. I think GTX 750 Ti doesn’t qualify for this job alone because miners compare by high end cards. There is no guarantee a kernel optimised for a low end or mainstream card performs the best for a high end one.
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You are such a hypocrite, you come to bitcointalk to say that opensource should be free and nobody should donate before a program has been released but then you are asking here to crowdfund your gpu’s (and not a cheap 750ti…)
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djm34, improvements for nvidia cards would always be welcome and I’d gladly tip you, I think anyone that helps the community deserves our support, that said, I won’t be ‘tipping’ upfront unless someone from the feathercoin team was holding the bounty address, because that’s the safest thing for our members. To me 5BTC seems very high but I have no doubt that paying for your expertise would far exceed that if you were to be paid out there in the real world for your time, so I understand your frustration. I’d never hold anything against someone who expects paying for their time, that said, it’s not the usual way we do things round here.
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djm34, improvements for nvidia cards would always be welcome and I’d gladly tip you, I think anyone that helps the community deserves our support, that said, I won’t be ‘tipping’ upfront unless someone from the feathercoin team was holding the bounty address, because that’s the safest thing for our members. To me 5BTC seems very high but I have no doubt that paying for your expertise would far exceed that if you were to be paid out there in the real world for your time, so I understand your frustration. I’d never hold anything against someone who expects paying for their time, that said, it’s not the usual way we do things round here.
The 5btc was most of an indication, I am not expecting to wait for that much either… (for info ghostlander is asking for around 2.5btc upfront to get the card before he even start working on it. so this is exactly the same)
I wouldn’t have anything against a bounty hold by the feathercoin team, actually that was part of the reason I posted here… (not to have an argument with someone who think neoscrypt is his algo… ) and the program already exist…
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You are such a hypocrite, you come to bitcointalk to say that opensource should be free and nobody should donate before a program has been released but then you are asking here to crowdfund your gpu’s (and not a cheap 750ti…)
No problem to crosspost here.
“Because it’s quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn’t become my sole property. Compare to your demands now and start acting like an adult rather than a spoiled child.”
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No problem to crosspost here.
"Because it’s quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn’t become my sole property.
Come on !!!
Please don’t take readers for complete idiot, this is insulting You brag about being able to do this and that in opencl while most of the people don’t even use your kernel as they used a kernel released by Wolf0 most likely better. (yeah, I may-be acting a bit like a spoil child right now…
this is what happen when someone come to brag to a thread I created to say he can do better, while not having seen the code, and not even owning proper hardware to do the job… ) -
You do know this place isn’t bitcointalk right? :o
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You do know this place isn’t bitcointalk right? :o
sorry :))
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sorry :))
:)
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I think its fair to say you have both spelled out exactly what your are offering. I think there are lots of NVidia miners who would love a optimised miner. There is no need to argue.
This is an environment where technical knowledge and advancement is valued and encouraged. As MrWyrm said this is not the wild west like bitcointalk and I’m happy about that.Like I have already said I will make a donation obut let’s make it £50 worth of crypto. If that’s for a new card or the bounty on the prebuilt miner I don’t really mind.
I would prefer it all to be ‘Free Software’ in the true gnu sense and simply donate rather than have it auctioned off.
But I understand the need to make skills pay and that’s a hard thing to do with freelance work. -
djm34: No offence now mate, but to be honest I think the low level of donations so far mainly is because you claim to have stuff that works but in fact nobody can really vouch for that, and screenshots can very easily be manipulated as we all know.
Mind you though, I’m definitely not saying you’re a scammer, so don’t misunderstand me. But I truly believe that if you handled this in another way you’d get more donations and the CUDA-miner would see the official light of the day.
I think one big step would be if we set up an official donation address held by the FTC-team for you, that’s good intention from your side, and a guarantee for everyone investing that you simply won’t just take the money and run :)
If we decide to do it that way, someone could also hook up with you on a video chat where you can show some kind of proof that you actually tell the truth (again, I’m not stating you’re lying right now, but the crypto business is shady in general so we all need to take precautions).
Give it some thought at least :)
Ghostlander: Ahh I see your point there. Hit me up if you change your mind tho, there are after all a LOT of rigs running with 750ti out there just waiting for some better performance in NS :)
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Agreed Vizay I would even go as far to say that the 750ti is £/kh the best bang for buck.
