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    • ghostlander
      ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

      I’d prefer to create a fast OpenCL kernel for NVIDIA rather than CUDA based. It’s easier to maintain and debug for me at least. If we manage to crowdfund the hardware cost, the rest is my business. I think GTX 750 Ti doesn’t qualify for this job alone because miners compare by high end cards. There is no guarantee a kernel optimised for a low end or mainstream card performs the best for a high end one.

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        djm34 Regular Member last edited by

        You are such a hypocrite, you come to bitcointalk to say that opensource should be free and nobody should donate before a program has been released but then you are asking here to crowdfund your gpu’s (and not a cheap 750ti…)

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        • MrWyrm
          MrWyrm administrators last edited by

          djm34, improvements for nvidia cards would always be welcome and I’d gladly tip you, I think anyone that helps the community deserves our support, that said, I won’t be ‘tipping’ upfront unless someone from the feathercoin team was holding the bounty address, because that’s the safest thing for our members. To me 5BTC seems very high but I have no doubt that paying for your expertise would far exceed that if you were to be paid out there in the real world for your time, so I understand your frustration. I’d never hold anything against someone who expects paying for their time, that said, it’s not the usual way we do things round here.

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            djm34 Regular Member last edited by

            djm34, improvements for nvidia cards would always be welcome and I’d gladly tip you, I think anyone that helps the community deserves our support, that said, I won’t be ‘tipping’ upfront unless someone from the feathercoin team was holding the bounty address, because that’s the safest thing for our members. To me 5BTC seems very high but I have no doubt that paying for your expertise would far exceed that if you were to be paid out there in the real world for your time, so I understand your frustration. I’d never hold anything against someone who expects paying for their time, that said, it’s not the usual way we do things round here.

            The 5btc was most of an indication, I am not expecting to wait for that much either… (for info ghostlander is asking for around 2.5btc upfront to get the card before he even start working on it. so this is exactly the same)

            I wouldn’t have anything against a bounty hold by the feathercoin team, actually that was part of the reason I posted here… (not to have an argument with someone who think neoscrypt is his algo… ) and the program already exist…

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            • ghostlander
              ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

              You are such a hypocrite, you come to bitcointalk to say that opensource should be free and nobody should donate before a program has been released but then you are asking here to crowdfund your gpu’s (and not a cheap 750ti…)

              No problem to crosspost here.

              “Because it’s quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn’t become my sole property. Compare to your demands now and start acting like an adult rather than a spoiled child.”

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                djm34 Regular Member last edited by

                No problem to crosspost here.

                "Because it’s quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn’t become my sole property.

                Come on !!! grin.gif Please don’t take readers for complete idiot, this is insulting grin.gif

                You brag about being able to do this and that in opencl while most of the people don’t even use your kernel as they used a kernel released by Wolf0 most likely better. (yeah, I may-be acting a bit like a spoil child right now… grin.gif this is what happen when someone come to brag to a thread I created to say he can do better, while not having seen the code, and not even owning proper hardware to do the job… )

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                • MrWyrm
                  MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                  You do know this place isn’t bitcointalk right? :o

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                    djm34 Regular Member last edited by

                    You do know this place isn’t bitcointalk right? :o

                    sorry :))

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                    • MrWyrm
                      MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                      sorry :))

                      :)

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                      • kris_davison
                        kris_davison last edited by

                        I think its fair to say you have both spelled out exactly what your are offering. I think there are lots of NVidia miners who would love a optimised miner. There is no need to argue.
                        This is an environment where technical knowledge and advancement is valued and encouraged. As MrWyrm said this is not the wild west like bitcointalk and I’m happy about that.

                        Like I have already said I will make a donation obut let’s make it £50 worth of crypto. If that’s for a new card or the bounty on the prebuilt miner I don’t really mind.
                        I would prefer it all to be ‘Free Software’ in the true gnu sense and simply donate rather than have it auctioned off.
                        But I understand the need to make skills pay and that’s a hard thing to do with freelance work.

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                          vizay Regular Member last edited by

                          djm34: No offence now mate, but to be honest I think the low level of donations so far mainly is because you claim to have stuff that works but in fact nobody can really vouch for that, and screenshots can very easily be manipulated as we all know.

                          Mind you though, I’m definitely not saying you’re a scammer, so don’t misunderstand me. But I truly believe that if you handled this in another way you’d get more donations and the CUDA-miner would see the official light of the day.

                          I think one big step would be if we set up an official donation address held by the FTC-team for you, that’s good intention from your side, and a guarantee for everyone investing that you simply won’t just take the money and run :)

                          If we decide to do it that way, someone could also hook up with you on a video chat where you can show some kind of proof that you actually tell the truth (again, I’m not stating you’re lying right now, but the crypto business is shady in general so we all need to take precautions).

                          Give it some thought at least :)

                          Ghostlander: Ahh I see your point there. Hit me up if you change your mind tho, there are after all a LOT of rigs running with 750ti out there just waiting for some better performance in NS :)

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                          • kris_davison
                            kris_davison last edited by

                            Agreed Vizay I would even go as far to say that the 750ti is £/kh the best bang for buck.

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                              djm34 Regular Member last edited by

                              djm34: No offence now mate, but to be honest I think the low level of donations so far mainly is because you claim to have stuff that works but in fact nobody can really vouch for that, and screenshots can very easily be manipulated as we all know.

                              Mind you though, I’m definitely not saying you’re a scammer, so don’t misunderstand me. But I truly believe that if you handled this in another way you’d get more donations and the CUDA-miner would see the official light of the day.

                              I think one big step would be if we set up an official donation address held by the FTC-team for you, that’s good intention from your side, and a guarantee for everyone investing that you simply won’t just take the money and run :)

                              If we decide to do it that way, someone could also hook up with you on a video chat where you can show some kind of proof that you actually tell the truth (again, I’m not stating you’re lying right now, but the crypto business is shady in general so we all need to take precautions).

                              Give it some thought at least :)

                              Why not… I don’t have anything against it (the program really exists and runs…)

                              not sure how to make a video, so if you have suggestion at that level…

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                                Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                                Well it is free but you need people to donate a card, so that’s not really free :) No I guess you understand the reason for a pledge…

                                Regarding Nvidia cards, sure I support their products. They have nice cards some are clearly overpriced but not all. The 750ti was pretty cheap and pretty good for mining (and the forthcoming gtx960 shouldn’t be too expensive with performance probably better than the 750ti).

                                Regarding opencl. Wolf0 who developped neoscrypt kernel for sgminer5 claims he has a kernel (private) doing 600kh/s on 290x may-be you could try to reach that speed with yours and release it for free, I guess you already have the material (Wolf0 won’t be happy if he reads me ;) )

                                I don’t just have claims, I has proof :P

                                But anyway, I’m not unhappy - I enjoy competition, it keeps me sharp.

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                                  vizay Regular Member last edited by

                                  This should fall under healthy competition, nobody really lose on it :)

                                  djm34: I’ll talk with others from the team to try and find out who can act middle man and hold the donation adress for you :)

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                                    djm34 Regular Member last edited by

                                    This should fall under healthy competition, nobody really lose on it :)

                                    djm34: I’ll talk with others from the team to try and find out who can act middle man and hold the donation adress for you :)

                                    ok thanks.

                                    In the mean time, here are some new numbers:

                                    gtx980: 630kh/s

                                    gtx780ti: 300kh/s

                                    gtx750ti: 150kh/s

                                    517266neoscryptnew.jpg

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                                    • kris_davison
                                      kris_davison last edited by

                                      That’s pretty cool! :)

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                                      • MrWyrm
                                        MrWyrm administrators last edited by

                                        I posted the ad to the feathercoin forum and discovers there are mostly a bunch of morons

                                        :o

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                                          djm34 Regular Member last edited by

                                          :o

                                          ^-^ well, imagine you developed something and you post to the forum where the people who should care the most are…

                                          then reread the first posts following my announcement… you’ll get an idea why I wrote that… ;D

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                                          • kris_davison
                                            kris_davison last edited by

                                            Thanks. OK I retract my offer stick your miner up your arse!

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